Posted by GREENMUSE: preach on brother ridah,its exaclty as
you say,a way to get more votes,
Posted by RidahNY: The problems that me and my friends have
are more to do with being broke and trying to get some money together for
food as opposed to worrying about our little cousins, nephews and nieces
being subjected to such "adult material" and mind corrupting fodder that
the entertainment industry allows. My cousins, nephews and nieces all have
good parents that restrict what their children watch on television and
have access to so why do we need politicians sticking their noses into
something that is not their business? They want to pass all of these laws
and make all of these rules, then go and enact a law that will enable me
to have more money and the ability to afford food a little easier. So sick
of politicians making our own personal business apart of their cause and
a way to gain more votes.
Posted by dairyqueen: The days of sheltering your children from
the evils of the world are all but over. There's just too much information
out there coming from all directions 24 hours a day. You can't stop it.
Parents can't. Your local congressman can't. Even fat-headed television
hosts can't.
Posted by styme: man i always thought id be the right wing
christians everyone always bitchin bout that would do this shyt. just goes
to show you there aint much diffrnce between Dems and Reps, they both suck!
Posted by SubXavier: Hehe... then what would you prefer, Loserman?
A totalitarian dictatorship? Communism? Maybe a tribal system where one
individual or group is sacrificed to the volcano god every week or so after
a "mission." I know.. the winner could get to be the leader of the tribe...
which, by that time, would be down to just him. Ah, well... the joys of
politics.
Posted by Sore Loserman: We have to do this it is just one more
step in destroying that great opressor of the people, the Constitution.
Once we have the music then we can go after the guns. Our agents already
control the media and Hollywood but the People's revolution can not go
on if people are allowed to think for themselves. Listen to Rosie, Listen
to Babs, Listen to Rob Riener these rich out of touch hollywood types know
the truth - Democracy sucks! Viva La Revolutions
Posted by Dugre666: First of all, I don't see anything pertaining
to violent music and or video games being marketted towards children. Than
again I don't think that telling artists to "clean" up their music for
children isn't fair for the artist. It is soley the parents responsibilty
to monitor and speak what is right for the minor, depending on the age
range. It shouldn't be the responsibility of the government. Nor should
the government repremand the artists for acts of a few obviously misguided
persons. It is time for certain persons to quit their crying and complaining
and to do something so that they do not raise future "killers".
Posted by Lucy: For a straight forward gal with a big
mouth, I sure do get nervous after I push "add my comments." I can see
all sides of this, so please don't think I am being closed minded. I guess
I just feel that as an adult it does not affect me. It does affect the
wanna-be-bad-ass kids though and thats fine with me. As far as the 'voluntary
system that does give parents that take time to monitor', it would also
not affect them if you think about it. They are already there to approve
or disapprove, correct? I would assume that type of parent, like myself,
would hold respect towards those trying to protect their children. But
anyway, I went on too long earlier and don't want to do that now. I just
feel that if your doing your parental job or your an adult it should not
offend you.
Posted by aG: Lucy the problem is if the Senate passes
this stupid "act" guess what, the entertainment industry will decide to
opt-out of all rating systems because it opens them up to fines and regulation.
So the voluntary system that does give parents that take the time to monitor
what their kids do won't be there any longer. Yes it is a problem but it
is not something the government should put their noses in to. As to type
of mother you mentioned, she has a lot deeper problems as a mother than
he children listening to Eminem, she's living the bad influence so they
could listen to Donnie and Marie and still turn out messed up. Right now
there is a system in place called warning stickers, most stores are not
supposed to sell these items to minors although they do and they will under
a rating system. Also most "offensive" CD releases are now accompanied
by a clean version with out the objectional material. So I do not see how
the government sticking their nose in here can help, it can only back fire
and when that does the only option these Senators will see is a mandatory
rating system and I'm sorry I just don't believe that it is the governments
job. They can do a lot of damage when doing things in the name of the children.
Posted by the max: You raise a good point by saying the government
should help out those kids that are without caring parents...but, do you
realy want politians and brainless morons deciding what is good and bad
for those children. These people make a living lying and back stabbing.
They know only what their "advisors" and yes-men tell them (ex. advisor:"Mr.
Senetor, this music thing is getting to be quite the controversy." Senetor:"Will
this controversy put me in big spotlight with my own press conference?"
Yes Man:"YES SIR"). These people don't give a shyt about the youth of this
country. The only reason they get into these little hissy fits is because,
like was stated before, to make a name for themselves by jumping on a broken
down band wagon. A rating system for music is just plain redundant. Think
about it. I garauntee if something like this goes into affect all it will
be is 5 elderly people sitting in a room listening for naughty words. Going
on swearing alone is no way to rate music. I also bet you that anything
with a hint of a power chord will automatically get an "adult" rating...even
if the singer is preaching his love of flowers and open meadows (what the
hell am I saying?!). I'm just gonna finish by saying that this crap will
do nothing. Nothing at all, if that same parent buys his minor ciggaretes...then
I'm guessing he's not going to give 2 shyts about buying them an R-rated
CD. This whole thing is as useless as it is unconstitutional.
Posted by Lucy: aG, first off, I totally see your point
in saying that censorship is an abhoration of OUR rights as an adult to
guide and raise our children. Lets get personal here though. I have a 37
year old sister who is totally self absorbed in herself and whatever drug
or alcohol is available and could care less what her children listen too.
I would assume that Igmo and Spermie could listen to Eminem all day and
she could care less. Therefore, Igmo thinks it's okay to be degraded by
a man and Spermie thinks its normal because Hey, it's in mainstreem music.
Mom doesn't give a crap what I listen to and someone has to enlighten me
on how the world works. If 'so and so' (insert any rap star) says 'the
Ho's got to give it up to get respect from me' and she's out there saying
"I'm okay, your okay...do what feels right,' who's raising that child?
It's kinda like cigarettes, be 16, 18 and buy it on your own. Until then...Momma's
got to buy it and then its her fault. I really don't know yet. My kids
are 10 and 8. They listen to what I listen too and buy Barbies and plastic
soldiers with their allowance right now. I guess I will always be the parent
who is there to 'censor' it first...not the government. (Gee, by now you
guys know me I would think.) But what if I'm not? You know, realistically,
it does not effect us as adults. We buy whatever we want because we can.
We can and we do. Why would it ever piss someone off, who is our age, that
censorship has kept crap out of our childrens hands, heads, eyes, ears?
Fighting that is just saying that we want to fight the system for 'whatever'
reason because it exist. Just to argue and fight about something. Not all
parents are there for their kids. DAMN, IT DOES NOT EFFECT OUR RIGHTS AS
ADULTS! It effects children, the people that it should. We hate the government
so much for caring about our kids now? How does this hurt you? WE are the
first and last amendement to our children until they are old enough to
vote and/or work. It's just another way to say get involved in your kids
lives or let someone else do it for you. You can still buy those CD's,
videos or tapes if you really feel they are age specific for your kids.
If you think your child is mature enough to listen to it...buy the damn
thing. But if you don't give a crap about your kids and think its not your
responsiblility to raise them...by God...just like wellfare, let the government
do it. They are used to raising children aren't they? I'm against censorship
to a degree. But until parents get involved with their children and CARE
and LISTEN to the crap that is being put out...YES put a rating on buying
it. Does an eight year old really need access to Puffy Combs or whatever
because he has one song that says: "He's my best friend" when the rest
of the album says f'n this and f'n that? NO! Sorry aG, we usually agree.
I tend to go much deeper as a parent.
Posted by Eagles: I think it's time we arm up and run on
Washington
Posted by Joe Gorrelle: Hey lets look at tjis way, they woulkd
have to fine every company in the world, they all focus on the youth, and
the big R is just a thing that makes kids feel tough. They go see a R rated
movie and they think they are the living end, they buy the game with the
M rating because it is suppost to be the coolest;normally is. Kids can
tell the diffrence between the guys they see shot in the movie or game,
and real life. this is also another stab at censorship.So let the freedom
of speech
Posted by Obelix: I agree with asterix. It's all to do with
money and sh*t. Censorship doesn't bother me cuz I record my own music
in which I can swear and cuss my motherf*ckin' a$$ off and no-one can do
anything about it.
Posted by àsterix: WHAT A GIMP! Your government knows that
you cant prove direct marketing to children. Cigarette companies have been
doing it for years and governments haven't been able to do anything. A
document leaking "Rothmans" (cigarette giant) intention to focus marketing
strategies almost entirely on young people to ensure its survival still
bought about no civil or government action (apart from a concerned report
on 60 minutes)! Its a vote winner that does nothing (a constitutional placebo).
Governments love all the ca$h generated from music (of whomb young people
are the top consumers). I dont think censorship will come into it until
the government makes some monumental stands against one or two bands and
conveniently turn a blind eye.
Posted by Dr Fever: ya know, I suppose that lil ol thing called
the Bill Of Rights (specificaly the First Amendment) doesn't apply when
Senators and uptight mothers are pissed.
Posted by Lunargoose: More proof that there really was no difference
between the Bush and Gore tickets last election... I still remember back
in 99 or 98, when this joker, with the help of C. Delores Tucker and some
other like-minded senators, put out this blackball list of dangerous and
degrading music artists that they wanted banned, and the list included
the usual Wu Tang, Geto Boys and Cannibal Corpse, to be sure, but also
the Black Crowes and Blues Traveler. I wish I was making this up, but for
some reason Lieberman considers John Popper and company to be "adult-rated"
material. Keep this in mind.
Posted by SubXavier: I see what you mean. At first, I thought,
"Oh, ok, it'l be like G, PG, Pg-13 and R... that doesn't sound too horrible..."
but then I remembered that movie studios often omit scenes to stay within
rating guidelines. The same thing would happen to musicians if labels were
put on albums.. record companies would force them to cut part of their
music for an untold audience. Or, on the other side of the coin, maybe
be forced to -insert- some expletives for a higher rating and more controversy.
That is censorship... and all for a few votes.
Posted by the max: I'm so sick of this kind of bullshyt.
Politians trying to improve their careers behind a mask of morality. It
amazes me...these are the very last people on earth that I would expect
to fight against the corruption of anything.
