Dr. Fever
Welcome to my world kiddies. Now, be warned
my columns will offend some of you, hell, a lot of you. But, only those
people with their heads so far up Carson Dalys ass that they can tell you
what he had for breakfast, lunch and dinner! The real music fans will enjoy
these little rants of mine. So, check it out and read on...you might just
learn something. I almost forgot, always remember that “hell is just
a word, the reality is much, much worse.”- Dr Fever
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YOU ARE NOT A BEAUTIFUL AND
UNIQUE SNOWFLAKE!
NOTE TO MY READERS: This month's column/rant
has been much delayed for a couple of reasons. One is a massive case of
writers block, the other is I've been exceptionally busy getting ready
to go back to school and also I've been working a lot. So, sorry for the
delay, I hope this was worth the wait.
~dr fever~
So, I've been thinking a lot about what
to write this month's column about and I think I’ve finally hit on it.
I got my inspiration from a political cartoon I saw in the Charleston (WV)
newspaper not that long ago and I think I speaks volumes. The cartoon shows
two 15-ish kids walking down the halls of AnyHighSchool USA, wearing matching
baggy jeans with the tops of there matching boxers showing. Both are wearing
over sized t-shirts and backwards, fitted baseball hats. Now, EVERY other
kid in the background of this cartoon is wearing the exact same thing.
The “conversation bubble” above one kids head says. “I could never go to
a school that requires uniforms, I gotta express myself and be different
from everyone else”. Get the joke??? I sure as hell do and thus, the inspiration
for this months column.
Let me say this write off, normally I can
come up with something to blame these disturbing trends I write about on...but
not this. I think the best blame lies with MTV and the like, but I’m just
not sure. So, I'll try and examine this. I’ve grown up in about the most
hick/redneck/backwards location you could imagine, how I turned out like
I did is nothing short of a miracle. What gets me is all of these things
that are fashionable NOW, I've been doing for YEARS (as I'm sure many of
you have as well). It kills me. I don’t intend to change because these
styles are what are comfortable to me. I can’t help it if they’ve all of
a sudden gotten so mainstream it’s sickening.
I guess, what makes me just downright
fucking ill is the jackasses who HONESTLY think that wearing a backwards
hat, or baggy jeans, etc makes them so ORIGINAL! Are they nuts!?!?!? Hey
folks, here’s a news flash, the days of true ‘originality’ when it comes
to clothes, fashion, whatever are OVER. Everything’s been done. I’m old
enough to remember a time when tattoos and piercings were only for dirty
old bikers. Now?? Well, every 16 year old girl with an Abercrombie and
Fitch midriff shirt and Tommy Girl jeans has a pierced navel and a tattoo
on her ankle. This is just an example though.
Another thing that bugs the living shit
out of me is the thought “what will my generation be remembered for”. I
mean, over the years generations are remembered for civil rights battles,
battles for peace against war, political statements. The list goes on.
My generation on the other hand? Well, we’ll be remembered as the “Tattooed,
pierced worthless shitheads that wear out underwear OUTSIDE our pants.”
And, let me tell you, I can quote Denis Leary to sum up the entire underwear
thing: “That’s one of the most basic rules we learn, that underwear goes
inside the pants...That’s why it’s call under-fuckin-wear!”
It’s really quite sad, and like I said
it just bothers the shit out of me. Ok, here’s the reality break for all
of you out there...”you are not the clothes you wear, you are not the contents
of your wallet, you are not a beautiful and unique snowflake, you are not
your fucking khakis. We are all a part of the same compost heap!” Get it??
So, where does this leave us? Well, I’ll
tell ya...to me, originality is all about what you think and what you feel,
not how you look. In other words THINK FOR YOURSELVES don’t be a mindless
drone just following Carson Daly's orders...wear what’s comfortable, have
opinions (especially your own, who cares if it’s not the same one as all
your friends), etc, But don’t ever try to be “original”. Once you claim
to be “original” then you’ve already fallen into the trap.
Of course, that’s just my opinion and I
could be wrong.
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hip-hop head
I am 15 years old, and I agree with you totally that my age group full of "rebels" is BS. I notice in my school that whatever is hot on tv, that is what everyone is doing. It's not really my generation's fault though. We are constantly being fed through the TV exactly what we should do, and how we should act. Also I've read some comments about my generation just being a bunch of stuck up white kids. I agree with that too, but we're not to blam. We "stuck up white kids" have never known anything else. If you really want to do anything about your complaints, you have to get today's youth to see the truth beneath all the BS that we are fed about life, and that won't be easy. I just wanted all of you to know that it isn't upper-middle class white America's fault that we are programmed to be mindless drones. It is all around us. Even in school you are tought not to have any original thoughts, and it takes some real strength to teach yourself the truth.
GOD
Not everyone can be a leader, someone has to follow. There's just not enough originality out there for everyone. Besides if everyone were cool like you, who would you feel superior to. Get over yourselves and just do whatever the f**k feels good.
PS. most of you are not the free thinking, all original, leaders you think you are. Read your own posts. You are all part of a large group. The deluded a** holes that honestly believe they are non-conformists.
Amanda
I TOTALLY AGREE WITH YOU! I REALLY DO! I THINK THAT AL OT O FPEOPLE WHO ARE POPULAR AND ALL OF THAT STUFF ARE JUST POPULAR FOR WEARING KEWL CLOTHES BRAND NAMES AND WEARING THE LATEST HAIR STYLE. I THNK THAT PEOPLE NEED TO WAKE UP! I THINK THAT THEY SHOULD ALL TRY AND BE ORGINAL, BECAUSE WITH THE GUYS DRESSING IN BAGGY JEANS AND XXX LARGE T-SHIRTS, IT JUST IS'NT COOL. WE SHOULD ALL GET A REALITY CHECK AND BE OURSELFS! AND FOR MY FINAL STATEMENT, DON'T BE A FOLLOWER, BE A LEADER!
PEACE!
AMANDA
Windegowolf
Ok, i have to say this...Puppetz i love you.
MasterOfPuppetz
actually your probably right, what the hell do i know im fourteen, as far as draft dodging goes thats almost understandable, vietnom was really a stupid war, why should the government have to intervene with some little asian shlthole countries civil war, you shouldent be able to force people to go fight someone elses cause, if they want to its fine, but what gives our government the right to send some unwilling person to their death to try to save some shltty little country from turning communist, as in the case of say WW2, there was actually a cause worth fighting for, so a draft was justified, as for hippies spitting on vietnom vets, anyone who did that should burn in hell, cause thats just wrong, and if im wrong about anything, please inform me, cause i probably dont know what the hell im talking about anyway
Windegowolf
Er.....yeah. Um, anyway. You know what? I am at an honest to god loss for words here. I just have nothing to reply to that with. Damn. Oh well, nothing to loss sleep over....AAAAH!
jason
the 50,s represented, the last of the regular guy. the one who worked hard, was grounded close to his roots and so forth. after that the cycle of spoiled little white kids with cars at 16 and allowences that were more than some poor peoples wages, growing up in a nice secure insulated envirement and having a pre manufactured spoon fead pop culture. wich gave way to mindless , ignorent, stuck up , spoiled little heartless brats. the 70,s had the oil crises, jimmyy carter.s recession, the struggle of the working class admist massive lay offs. the 80,s gave birth to heavy metal, wich is why were all here. ronald reagan pulling this country out of the recession, along with pulling the hostiges out of iran. then wich lead the largest number of people to enlist in the armed services in a generation. do to new found pride in being american. dont forget that the iron curtain was also opened. the 60,s gave us white bread colage kid,s who dodged the draft, got high, spreaded v.d. , spit on the poor kids who got drafted and then gave us liberal politices. this lead to the clintons and gore,s, who in the 90,s abbussed the white house, lied to the public, attack,s from tipper gore againt,s metal. dont forget nafta, this pissed american job,s across our border,s, taxed the right to get married, but defend gay marriege, slaped criminals on the wrist and attacked our 2nd amenment rights and supported baby killing. this is after liberal collage kids in the 60,s spit on american soldiers and called them baby killer,s. the 90,s also gave us the popularity of scumbag ghetto life in rap and hip hop. and while they tell you that crime has went down, they dont tell you that violent crimes and teenage deliquencie has rose. so dont tell me that the 60,s or 90,s are the best because it,s not true. maybe for rich white people or sociealpathes and ghetto scum.
Dr Fever
actually Beautiful...WHEN i watch it,
i watch it to get a good, hearty laugh. It's such a joke..and it sickens
me just how far that once great network (translation: when they actually
gave a shyte about the quality of the music, which was probably the EARLY
90's) has fallen...but, what do I know, i'm just a columnist with a LOT
of opinions.
MasterOfPuppetz
i was just rereading your rant Dr. Fever,
and i noticed you said other generations were remembered for things like
civil rights battles and such, thats really not true, the only generation
with ideals was the generation of the 60s, i dont recall anything paticullarly
special comeing from the 50s 70s or 80s, the 70s are remembered for disco,
but if you look their was great music in the 70s (like black sabbath) but
when i was younger i had a misconception about the 70s, cause i thought
it was all disco, i think that the 90s will be remembered for grunge, and
hopefully not the stuff that came out in the late 90s, as far as generations
go, well, again, only the 60s truly had a generation with ideals (at least
concerning the majority anyway, their are 90s people with ideals)
MasterOfPuppetz
seriously beatiful, why dont you attempt
to make a fukking point, instead of putting down Dr. Fever, you seem to
have some kind of unfounded hatred for him, or maybe, like everyone says,
your just looking for atention
Windegowolf
You know what? Fvck you Beautiful, i can't
believe i was actually defending you. You seem to have this irresistable
urge to put down everybody's opinions. Your parents must have really ignored
you when you were a child because you really seem to crave attention. I
find that sad. You are one to be pitied Beautiful because you have major
issues.
Beautiful
All you do is b*tch and moan about how
much you hate MTV--so why do you even watch it?
Mike
MTV Music? isn't that an oxymoron? if
they don't show music how can they give awards? And Eminem and the backstreet
boys are not MUSIC!
Zer0
D00d.. isn't Titney Spheres like 19 and
stuff... and i never thought of her as a role model anyway.. but you're
right about kids thinkin that way about her... but look where she came
from... Disney is like the most evil institution on the planet... well,
besides like record companies/execs... you know that she and Christina
had to "service" Michael Eisner (the president of Walt Disney Corp.) big
time to get where they are... they're just pawns in a much bigger game...
and they'll fall just like all the others... one can only hope that the
next "fad" is one that's at least somewhat intelligent... and (hopefully)
meaningful.. but i wouldn't hold my breath... oh well... i've done enough
damage... laterz... -0
Windegowolf
hey! i can cuss now! cool! ^_^
Windegowolf
agreed, and i'm sure everyone noticed
what Britney Spears was wearing...isn't she only 18? Isn't there a law
against that?? AND PEOPLE ACTUALLY SAY SHE'S A GOOD ROLE MODEL?? I wonder
if she knows my 5 yr old sister worships her. And she was bitching because
no one considers her an artist! ARTIST MY ASS! She's a sex symbol! She's
a WHORE! ARRRRRRRGGG! Sorry, i apologize for my outburst, but i'm wondering
how people like her can sleep and promote what they do when they know that
they are an influence to thousands of young girls like my sister. It royaly
pisses me off!
greenmuse
mtv music awards?? lol.that shclock fest
made me either want to puke my intestines out,or keel over laughing,i never
saw such swill in my entire life,is it just me or each year as impossible
as this sounds,each yead the mtv awards get crappier and crappier,fred
durst with christina agulara, lol that shize had me lughing so hard i almost
peed my pants
dr fever
oh don't worry windegowolf...that piece
of shyt is the subject of my next column....which i'll have ready (hopefully)
by the middle of this coming week. so, everyone prepare yourselves.
Windegowolf
oh must i be the conversationalist in
the room? ok, who has comments on the mtv awards? this should be fun...
Zer0
(looks around, sees no intelligent conversation,
leaves)
Windegowolf
Ok, it's my duty to stick up for the underdogs
here, so you guys quit jumping on Beautiful. That means you too Fever.
Everyone just be the bigger person. Beatiful my seem like he/she is trying
to get attention with his/her posts, but some of his/her ideas were very
plausible and you have to admit, he/she makes his/her, ah screw being politicaly
correct, point very well. So lets all find another topic so i wont get
so sick to my stomach. WHERE'S MY KAOPECTATE???
Dr Fever
thank you to my supporters...and, for
you beautiful I offer this advice...find a websters dictionary and look
up "petty"..and while your at it look up "childish", "immature" and "pointless"....all
of these pretty much sum you and your posts up.
GREEN MUSE
how is it that all frat guys think about
is being drunk and getting laid.i admit both are fun,but there is more
to life buckos,
drukendude
yo beautiful there ain't nuthin wrong
with bein in a frat unless you are opposed to getting drunk and laid a
lot. you must be one of those AOL chicks "All overweight ladies". You know
Big is Beautiful! I got nothing against the big chics I wouldn't do em
either you can drink em cute but you can't drink em skinny. I got you figured
out, your one of those loser people who try so hard to be with the cool
people by following their every move but in the end they still reject you.
Doctor Fev just points out how much of an idiot you are and you're pissed.
got news for you honey, those cool people are the real losers cuz they
have to decide everything by commitee. never an original thought, Karl
Marx would be proud huh? I read your stupid Doctor Fev bashing and all
you have done is make an ass out of yourself. If you disagree with what
the dude has to say fine lets hear about that but this stupid name callin
is childish.. of course I resort to your level, so go to McDonald's order
your 10 cheeseburges and Extra Large Diet Coke and shut the f*ck up!
ShroomDevil
I felt the need to stand up and defend
Dr. Fever, but it quickly went away. Just lazy, I guess. Keep arguing.
You all will figure out that it's possible to make any side of any arguement
look logical. It's never ending. But keep going. "Here we are now, entertain
us."
Windegowolf
hehe, watch me get hit in da nose for
that last comment. i love playing with people...
Windegowolf
alright now children, settle down. Ok,
now then...what's this all about? Beautiful, what exactly is your point
in all of this? What are you trying to prove? If all you're looking for
is a chance to prove Fever wrong, i think it is a desperate and petty attempt
for attention. So find a point, and preferably one that has to do with
his post. ~Wolf
Beautiful
Just discovered one more HUGE note of
hipocrosy; you're in a frat and you're pissed off that prople are followers!?!?!?
Forget every other point I have made; this is hands down the icing on the
cake. No matter what excuse you give (and you will give one), members of
fraternities/sororities are people that feel they need to fit into some
group. When you join a frat/sorority, you strip away all of your independence.
You are in turn referred to as a member of that group, rather than as Dr.
Fever (or whatever your real name is). Once again I say, with ample evidence,
you are what you say you aren't.
d r fever
beautiful...that's just my opinion. (hahaha)...as
far as the vulgarity issue goes, once again, I JUST WRITE...I don't control
the way the site is run, hell, i think people should be allowed more freedoms
in there responses, cussing being the main thing. But, like I said, I have
no control over such things.
Beautiful
TreeFrog--I see what you're saying but
I don't think that there is anything wrong with having an opinion. Fever--Nope,
you're wrong.
TreeFrog
Hrmmmmm........the script checks for profanity
in the text. I don't disagree with this, but if it were to modify the actual
text put in, I'd have a definite problem with that.
Windegowolf
oh yes, can i just say something real
quick? Fever, how come you can curse in you colum but we can't in our posts?
Having to find other ways to get our, heh, "point" across is annoying as
heck. excuse my whining, but doesn't that strike you as, well, dumb?
TreeFrog
Hrmmmmmmmm. Well, I suppose that a forum
among millions of other forums is a forum nonetheless, so I begin. I could
go on about how I agree or disagree with what Dr Fever says in his rants,
but I'm not going to do that. Instead, I am going to criticize the validity
of arguing about opinions. I see that most of the people who respond to
these types of rants have something bad to say about it. Well, I'm sorry
Mr/Mrs Beatiful, but I'm going to quote someone. My Social Change professor
put it quite well when she commented that "The most common mistake that
people make when studying social changes is that there is a such thing
as right or wrong." Now going on that, I believe that someone who attacks
another person's opinion is actually insulting themselves, because there
isn't anything to really base this opinion on. I'm not saying that anything
isn't an open forum. All that I'm trying to say is that you can disagree
with someone's point, but you can't call that person 'wrong' or 'stupid'
or whatever vulgar words you may choose. I believe that true understanding
is believing whole-heartedly in your opinions, yet having the humility
to know that you could be wrong. And like I always say, and I notice it
at the bottom of Dr Fever's rants, I could be wrong.
Windegowolf
Heh, i can have fun with this...ok, this
is my take. Labels, it's all about the f*cking labels people. Preps, Jocks,
Freaks, Losers, Goths...whatever. People always feel the need to label
everything they find, whether it's music or people or anything else. I
suppose they do as sort of a defense mechanism, if they automatically decide
who you are just by looking at you, then they don't have to risk getting
to know you, right? People always have labels as sort of a comfort. Like
religion in a way. I can also go farther and discuss the followers. People
are sheep...baa baa. It's either human nature or just f*cking laziness
that makes us this way. I don't know. All i know is that it makes me sick.
And the really really sad part is: it's acceptable to be a follower, but
you're persecuted for trying something new. Sheep go to heaven, Goats go
to hell...who agrees? ~Wolf
Dr Fever
ok, Beautiful...you're right. I did quote
leary...sorry bout the mistake. BUT, as far as the rest of your statement(s)
go, just because I added a couple of "spice" quotes (leary, fight club)
to my column that doesn't take away from the fact that the REST (roughly
98%) is my own. I've figured it out...i look at your handle...i look at
the way you attack me and i find myself reaching one, undeniable conclusion...you
are one of those types...the type who likes to point and laugh at people
in clothes from k/wal mart while you prance around in your hilfiger and
abercrombie driving the beamer daddy bought you...but, most important of
all, deep down in that secret place you never tell your worthless co-horts
about, you KNOW i'm right and it kills you.
JIMEE
I hate this thing going on in school.
If you don't wear tommy Hilfuker or other crap, you're no good. I like
to wear band shirts, or shirts that most people wouldn't wear, that are
rarely worn by other people. It's basically the way I am, whatever I like
everyone hates. I am the only one with an Iron Maiden hat and everyone
makes fun of it. So? Better than looking like a member of the Wu-Tang clan,
like dirty old b*stard or whatever the hell his name is. Everyone is a
poser in my school. All these preppies are trying to be punk, or they are
trying to be a skater to be so called cool. This is crap!!! "I go up to
the counter for my coffee...another 18 year old kid. Both ears, pierced.
Both nostrils, pierced. Both lips, and eyebrows, f*ckin pierced...and pants
all the way down to his knees!! And had tattoos all over his arm. When
he was talking..I couldn't understand what he was saying, do you know why?
I'll tell you why...he had a 10 pound dumbell in his tounge, he had his
toung pierced with a 10 pound dumbell!! Why would you want that in your
mouth, thats another way for your dad to easily kick your a$$! He'd grab
that dumbell and smack you over the f*cking head!" Dennis Leary, Lock n'
Load
JIMEE
I hate this ting going on in school. If
you don't wear tommy Hilfuker or other crap, you're no good. i like to
wear band shirts that are rarely worn by other people. I am the only one
with an Iron Maiden hat and everyone makes fun of it. So? Better than looking
like a member of the Wu-Tang clan, like dirty old b*stard or whatever the
hell his name is. Everyone is a poser in my school. All these preppies
are trying to be punk, or they are trying to be a skater to be so called
cool. This is crap!!!
Beautiful
Yes, you did quote Denis Leary in this
column; "I can quote Denis Leary to sum up this whole underwear thing..."
I'd like to see you write on "rant" that actually contains some thoughts/ideas
you came up with yourself. That's probably not possible though.
poco
doctor doctor give me the news i got a
bad case of hating you! not really but i've been die'n to write that here
=)~~~ Gene Simmons
Dr Fever
hey, sanches...i don't have ANY control
over taking down posts..that one falls to the people who RUN the site...i'm
just a columnist who emails in my columns to an editor...other than that
I have no control...so, either: A. you fukkked up and didn't get the post
through, or, B. someone who controls such things took it down.
No one here removed any post from this month's
rant. Dan maybe didn't hit the post button? I can assure you we only remove
post that are extremely off topic, contain a string of characters in them
like !! ?? etc or are spam. So just stating your opinion on an article
will not get your post deleted. Hope that helps - Keavin Managing Editor
Anghel
Aggghhh , Dr. Fever, you're right, now
almost everyone wants to be a f*****' ghetto s*** star, everyone wants
to look like puff daddy or any stupid like that, and everyone wants to
be part of the hood and all the damn show, now if a boy or someone wants
to dress like that, he can think he's original, but guess what ? he isn't!!!!
and honestly, i just hate that, but also i can't scape from that, sometimes
i wanna emulate my idols like the chicks from kittie or use my flannel
shirts ( in which ones i don't spend almost anything , 'cuz i steal them
from my dad ) just like Eddie Vedder , but as long as you think you're
comfortable with what are wearing, nothing f*****' else matters !!!
dan sanches
why did u take down my post, all-knowing
Dr. Fever, did I hit the mark of what? I was absolutely right about u and
that made u mad, and u felt the need to take down my post to save yourself
from the embarassment of acknowledging your own flaws. aside from the fact
that my post made u look like a hypocritical little dumb$h1t.
Dr Fever
Beautiful...i made my point rather clear
in this months column, i just used the fight club quotes to "add a little
spice". My "pseudonym" is a nickname given to me at college by one of my
radio co-horts...but, your right, It is from a TV show...and even though
I love Denis Leary, I don't quote him in this column...i quote Dennis MILLER.
Basically...these things don't make me, as you say, "a mindless drone"
like the rest of you. So, sorry, your gonna have to come up with a better
argument. Keep trying kid-o, you're doing good, i'll give you that much.
Beautiful
You tell us to 'think for ourselves,'
when you don't do that yourself. Can't use your own ideas to make a point;
have to qoute 'Fight Club' or Denis Leary. You can't even think of an original
pseudonym to go by...have to copy one from a television show! You're a
mindless drone just like the rest of us--just wish you'd admit that you're
nothing but a carbon copy of everything you hate.
Dr Fever
hey, beautiful...i took your advice and
went to my own website...hmm...i counted ONE fubu shirt, the same one..and
it's in two seperate pictures. Then, I looked through my closet..guess
what...i found ONE fubu shirt...hmm...wow, for someone who (to hear you
tell it) wears nothing but FUBU i seem to have a shortage of fubu clothes.
So, next time, pick a better soap box to stand on.
Baboonicus
My school truly sucks. Everyone in it
(aside from myself and my circle of friends) belong to 1 of 3 social groups.
The first, and largest, is the ghetto-wannabie group. Keep in mind all
these fools come from rich families, get a car the instant they have a
license (an EXPENSIVE car at that), and use God knows how many drugs on
a daily basis. Then they go around wearing designer clothes about 3 or
4 sizes too large (the extra extra extra large size), listen to rap (the
girls pop) and think they're cool. The second group is the Korean immigrants.
Keep in mind I have nothing against other races, but when you pretend not
to speak English, glare at any non-Asian, and become seriously full of
yourself then you have problems. As for clothes, they wear basically the
same as the ghetto-wannabies. They listen to Korean pop and rap. The third
group falls somewhere between the lines of preps and nerds. They dress
more conservatively and as for music, well, I have no clue. In general
I find them boring. I find all this crap disgusting. As for myself and
my friends, we wear whatever the hell we want, listen to various stuff
(metal in general for the most part), and are considered to be "weird."
Personally, I don't give a rat @$$ what anyone says about us. We are happy
and we are independant, that's all that really matters. I am also fortunate
enough to be leaving this hellhole next year, and it's about time!
Beautiful
All of you who are using "FuBu" as a reference
to something that discusts you--go to Dr. Fevers web site and check out
his pictures. Notice the FuBu shirts???
Eagles
I have to agree with shroom devil, making
pre-ripped jeans goes against punk in general. Punk is the lack of fashion
when you buy certain things just to get a punk look you are no better then
a preppie, FuBu wearing gangster wannabe. Punk is just wearing whatevers
comfortable and not really caring how it looks, basically is buying anything
that feels good. Just like doing anything that feels good is a big part
of the punk message.
Manbat
There are people who are fans and people
who are in desperate need of attention that they have follow every trend
that comes along. I'm a huge Nirvana fan, (I'm 16 and was late on the "Grunge"
thing) but do I go around wearing flannel and being depressive? NO! The
point is that you don't have to dress or act like someone you emulate,
just to prove you are a fan, it's just that some people do it. If I emulated
everyone that I thought was "cool" I would probably bite bats heads off.
Yeah, I'm a huge Sabbath fan too.
SubXavier
I never said that the Seattle bands (for
lack of a better term) endorsed a certain style of clothing, and everyone
knows people like them in part because they *didn't* do that, because they
*didn't* sell out. I'm just saying that people wear what their idols wear
because they want to emulate them, and other people just hop on for the
ride.
Beautiful
Mainstream has "just caught on" to the
style of backwards hats and baggy jeans/t-shirts? Last I checked that's
been the style since about '92. And by the way, if you're "original" how
come I go to your website and see pictures of you wearing FuBu shirts and
quoting Denis Leary? Doesn't get much more mainstream/MTV/Britney Spears
than that. You're are not the solution, and you're not presenting any new
ideas. You are everything you claim to be discusted with.
ShroomDevil
That's besides the point tho. Even if
the musicians didn't endorse it, ignorant people still blindly followed
the image. The musicians were just being themselves, which would lead to
their denial of the image. All the dumba**es who followed it are what this
chat is talking about.
Zer0
ok.. for one, personally i dress any damn
way i want to... which happens to basically any friggin thing i can find
in my closet.. but yeah, mostly "grunge" (God i hate that word) clothing..
anyway... i've noticed a lot of talk on this board about the G word...
and i'd like to point out that NONE.. NOT ONE of the bands that were popular
at the time believed or endorsed the whole "grunge" thing.. as a matter
of fact, a lot of them (Pearl Jam, Soundgarden, AIC.. which by the way
i still listen to with a passion) never believed that they fit that whole
image.. it was just a name that the media slapped onto a group of bands
just so they'd be "more marketable" ... the idea of that just makes me
sick personally.. and it's a whole other issue... but none of those bands
"endorsed" or "promoted" that image.. they never wanted to be idols or
stars.. i mean hell, Pearl Jam's basically fell into obscurity in the past
4 or 5 years (or more)... and they like it that way... and there were a
LOT more bands lumped into that genre than you think.. and most of them
you've never even heard of.. and no, they don't sound alike... if you want
to see a list, go to http://members.tripod.com/cycletheory and see for
yourself... i dunno.. anywayz.. laterz.. -0
Anti-Me
I like this one... its almost as good
as the last one...
MasterOfPuppetz
its just the same person who impersonates
people on other boards, hes all over the place, just ignore him
SubXavier
Umm... I'm guessing the latter Jen isn't
the former Jen.
Dr Fever
i have a feeling the little sh!t was being
sarcastic.
ShroomDevil
... uh yeah. That's about the right idea.
Were u being sarcastic?
Jen
sorry people, i'm so fuking stupid fpr
thinking BSB is talented. Gosh, i almost fainted when i saw what i wrote.
well n e ways, FUK BSB.
dr fever
sorry s8un for not attributing my quotes...i
was in a hurry to get this column done and it skipped my mind. but, yes,
they are from fight club...and so is the title.
Freak
bsb are talented? let's see lue pearlman
spent 2 million to get thing to sing and dance half way decently, had their
songs doubled checked by focus groups every step of the way. talent? no
honey it's old fashioned madison ave advertising and marketing and you
bought in to it. these manufactured groups are an insult to every serious
musician out there who tried to make it in the business the honest way,
hard work and talent.
Jen
bsb is talented, and they aren't a punk
band.
Metal Wolf
Well where i am around, punk music is
becoming a fashon statement, all of a sudden many guys dress like the punk
bands and play with skate board stuff like that. As for grundge, well I
admit that was a fad probably, but the reason grundge was created was because
many of the original grunge bands we sick of the glitter and gold bands
that got all the women and the money(like at that time Poison or New Kids
On The Block) so then they came in the business with ripped up dirty clothes(which
I garuntee they would not wear every day, just whent hey are playing or
in a music video, if not they would have probablyw ore rich clothes behind
the scenes.).Ther eis always going to be a new fad every 3 to 10 years.
GREEN MUSE
I hate people who think punk is a fashion.punk
is a way of life,a way of thought,not whos got the biggest doc martens.,whose
got the best looking fred perry.or whose got the rattiest looking leather
jacket.these people hear the music,but fail to listen to its message.a
very good example would be the dead kennedys song california uber alles.named
after the nazi song deutchland uber alles.well alot of boneheads saw the
name and started showing up at shows having no idea what the song atcully
meant.im not claiming to be more "punk"than anyone,but people listen to
the music,its all about unity,and acceptance.if the kids are united,they
will never be divided...........
S8UN
I agree totally. Oh, and Dr. Fever, next
time credit your quotes from who/where they came (the "...same compost
heap!" quote is from Fight Club, but not everyone knows that)
ShroomDevil
Oh. I'm also pissed off at people who
think they're cool for rebelling against the majority of people. I really
don't think it makes you a cool person or anything. It's nothing to be
proud of. It's just who you are. I'm a waste of time, laterz.
ShroomDevil
There's not much we can do is there? There
was that whole grunge fad, where everyone went out bought 100 dollar flannel
shirts, got scissors, tore them up to look grungy and pretended to be poor.
Then BAM, Cobain dies (I'm one of those dumbasses who doesn't believe he
killed himself), Pearl Jam drops out of mainstream, Soundgarden breaks
up, Alice in Chains.. (I really have no f*cking clue what happened to them),
but anyway, the grunge thing died. What else can we do. And now everybody's
supposed to be doing the "rich gangster" bit. I find that funny. I don't
know about anyone else. But I never knew that the hood was a rich place
with pools and jewelry. And I would also like to express my hatred for
modern-day "punk" clothes. I really hate that trendy s*it. Punk clothes
is not a fashion, damnit. It's ... nothing. It's not caring about what
you're wearing. I saw some pants in sears that were PRE-RIPPED. ..................
k, just thought I'd let the stupidity of that sink in. I know, clothes
wasn't exactly the topic of this discussion, but I've typed a lot and if
I type anymore people will just skip over the post. Sorry for wasting your
time.
Kasper
I live in the worst place possible. These
people actually scare me and that is hard to do. I live in a small swiss
town in south WI. Everyone is I guess you could say perfect. This is compared
to me, anyway. They all dress with this $100 dollar stuff from Abercromi,
Tommy, Fubu.. all the things I'd like to burn! I'm a strange person, I
don't claim to be unique or anything. But I do agree with Dr. Fever. Do
what you want, it's the best way to go. I probobly do look like alot of
people now-a-days, but that's alright I suppose. At least I don't look
like a prep. I got 20 dollar baggy jeans, 5 dollar plain shirts under brands
no one has ever heard of and my nearly dead ADIDAS shoes. Call me strange,
but it's comfy. So yeah, I agree with ya Fever.
SubXavier
Hey, anyone remember '92? Well... I don't....
I was six... but basing my statement on what I've heard, remember what
happened then? The explosion of grunge music, and, along with it, grunge
clothing? Believe me.... after the "musicians" stop endorsing the product,
people stop buying it.
Lucifer
You guys haven't seen a REAL BAD hick
place till you've been to northren South Dakota (where I'm from) And yes,
I am also one of those people that has one of those preppy-ass schools
with nothing but a bunch of stuck up trendies. But the sad part about the
trends at our school is that they are just now figuring out trends that
happened 3 years ago, and it has always been that way.
Metal Wolf
Well around where I am, looking at the
clothes of a person mostly sets what they act like at my school. There
are 3 groups in my school when it comes to fads. THe preps(tommy hilfiger
wearing, skate board riding guys who are all popular and liked by all girls.),
the gangster wanabies(closely tied with preps, they are just in training,
they just act like gangsters while they wear most of the stuff preps wear.),
and the not so popular people(like me and other people.).Around here the
clothes show a image of what the person acts like.
Freak
the cloths don't make the man
Metal Wolf
I could not agree more with MasterOfPuppets
and Dr Fever.At school everyone acts like they are gangsters(saying wassup,
and all that other stuff.).The clotheslines for mys chool is either Tommy
Hilfiger, Guess or Huga, kakis and something to do with skateboards. Now
all of these people dress, think, and act the same mostly and I am glad
to be away from it all, all I wear is 20 dollar logo shirts, maybe levi
or wrangler jeans, air walk shoes, and normal socks.The total price for
the clothes I wear would at least be $50 dollars when most kids at school
have the price up over $100. Most of all of these people like pop,punk,
rap.That is it, the only music they like close too metal is Metallica only
for that napster thing since they call guys like me computer losers.ANd
I am not getting into that napster thing no more. But I am proud to be
a metal/hard rock fan and wearing cheap clothes.
Azathoth
I am so damn glad I am out of high school.
Dr Fever
sorry to tell you this master of puppets...they
never grow up, hell, the older they get-the worse they get. just grin and
bear it..flip 'em the bird and move on with your life..besides, you shouldn't
concern yourself with what others think or say about you
MasterOfPuppetz
my school is pretty sick when you think
about it, you cant be cool unless you where abercrombie and fitch, which
is totally rediculous, i refuse to wear it based on that , and if you dont,
then everyone calls you a poor ass and talk about how you shop at goodwill
and all that BS, and the sick thing is some of these people really are
poor, and its nothing you should make fun of, i cant relate but i mean
how can you judge someone on the amount of money there parents make, i
sure hope the people in my school grow up in high school, considering i
have go back to school tuesday =(
green muse
oh yeah i lived in wv till i was 8,i lived
in west milford.its just as reneck and backwoods as the doc says it is
GREEN MUSE
I defintly agree,clothes dont make the
man.being who you are is a state of mind,not an apearance.sure i got tattoo's
but not vuz everyone has them,not to fit in.i got em cuz ever since i was
little i always wanted some.seems like whenever im at the tattoo shop theres
one of the abercrombie girls the dr metiond in there getting her butterfly
on her ankle saying how much it hurts.why would anyone want to suffer pain
to fit in? i guess its a matter of tolerance,but i think the only bad part
of gettin ink is the god forsaken itching that happens.the good doctor
has hit the nail on the head with this rant.
zappa
i agree
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