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Dr. Fever
Da_Bomb
Dr.fever your f!uckin stupid
as hell do you know what you are even talking about?My advice and rant
to you is.....drum role please.... let another f!uckin "doctor" say somethin
about it and why dont you you go pay less attention to Durst and (DALYS)LOL
Who am I? ho am I?
narf
1)im a metallica fan 2)i
support them in this napster sh*t but where is this small thing that i
do it call thinking and making my own choises not going after the band
blindly try it MetallicA rules
ranting
what is all this stuff at
the top about just a website. you know how many websites there are out
there right now like screwmetallica.org, and countless others I've come
across but can't think of just at this moment, I will if someone presses
me though. 20 million were told they were wrong, that has to account for
something. I know I am never buying a metallica album again and I decided
before I even knew of such websites. everyone I have talked with in person
has agreed with me as well. its more then this one little website believe
me.
robinhood
unfortunatly no, thats not
how the world works now. Napster is part of the world, so is Imesh, Gnutella,
Freenet, Napigator, and many others. According to a technical expert in
that field sites like these are going to come fast and furious. They may
just decide to move worldwide where the courts can't touch them. Its to
late for Napster haters now, or would you have metallica spend all there
money on lawsuits for every company out there and up and comming. That
would be good I guess, more money for lawyers. This is how things are now,
it is how the world works now.
MasterOfPuppetz
Where the hell do you people
shop? I can go to best buy and get 13 dollar Cds, and I also know of music
stores that let you preview a cd without having to have a 2 hour download
for a cd, or you could alwase use real audio to preview cds, they have
kinda bad quality but you can tell if you like the songs, thats how i previewed
metallicas Kill'Em All, and found it was a damn good cd to, everyones all
pissed of cause they cant think they deserve to get free stuff all the
time, Well METALLICA DOESENT OWE YOU $HIT SO QUIT PRETENDING THEY DO AND
GO PAY 13 BUCKS FOR A CD THATS HOW THE world woRKS
Dr Fever
Two things...JIMBO111111;
12 year old ungh??? aparently you cannot read, or, you're just to damn
stupid to put two and two together. Which one is it?? and ANNA...wow, you
sound just like a typical teenage today...you follow the trend of everyone
else your age..you don't think for yourself, you are just a mindless sheep
who follows the crowd and doesn't do anything to stand out on your own..well
that and you cannot spell or type.
jimbo111111
Looked like a decent website
tell you read bs from a 12 year who wasn't even born when metallica started.
kma Adios
AnNa
u r soo f*cken messed up.
do u know how many people are like wanting to kill metallica now? just
cuz uv wasted all ur life on sum dum a$$ band, and see nothing through
it, its your own problem. napster is da best. as u kno teens dont have
that much cash so its the best if they can preview like songs b4 they waste
18 bucks on a cd that they like 2 songs from. so ur whole artcile on this
is madd bull$hit. metallica fans as u put it are allowed to have their
own opinion. they dont gotta approve everything that one band does. unless
they're smoking something and are truly pathetic. see i like metallica,
they cool. but rite now i feel like just argh.. and alot of peopel i kno
(over 300) feel thge smae way. i would not be surprised if like their profits
go down cuz of this. cuz believe it or not people out there have their
own minds, and arent as sad as u. and just to put it for the end that obviously
i am on napsters side. just to tell you since from this article u sound
really dum! k. well thats all i gotta say. now ill go mail the napster
petition to sum of my friends. i know it wont help but its worth a try.
bye jaka$$ w/ no life.
napstersucks
music is a product like
anything else that we buy, metallica produces the "product"-music and sells
it to the consumer, they have every right to keep making money its their
music which took blood sweat and tears to create, only stupid people defend
napster, they, their only reason is "theirs nothing wrong with free music"
well there is if the artist doesnt want you taking it, why dont we call
mcdonalds sellouts since they make us buy hamburgers instead of giving
them out, their 200 times richer then metallica right?
sxott
I agree if you are a whiner
and cannot afford to buy a CD then record them off the radio.
MasterOfPuppetz
The reason other bands dont
come out against napster is because they are afraid of losing fan support,
Metallica and a few otheres were the only ones with the balls to Sue napster,they
didnt care what the people would think, which is the opposite of selling
out
DigiKryme
I agree. to a point. Artists
deserve to be paid for their work. I actually own metallica cds (gasp)
I have from killem all to s&M I still Dload some Metallica for use
on my pc because its a pain in the ass to switch cds and i dont want to
mess with ripping them. BUT this is a revolution, the digital age is upon
us and info (be it music or other data) is more accessable than ever and
free as everything on hte net should be. Face it the digital generation
is smarter than anyone ever Xpected and the best thgings in life are FREE
crystal4
I was in agreement up to
the point where you said Metallica is within their legal right to sue napster.
Unfortunately, this whole Napster business is unchartered territory. If
Napster was providing entire CD's to be downloaded, then copyright infringement
would apply.That is not the case here. I appreciate what Metallica is trying
to do, however I wish they would quit with all the retoric and get to the
point...They are pissed because no one asked or paid for their permission.
And that reason alone is enough to sue and hopefully force Napster to view
the music that it is exchanged, as a person's or group's art and respect
it enough to make sure the artist is ok with it being tossed around through
this software and site. I don't believe this is all about the almighty
dollar. It's about respect.
NamSta
I won't say that Metallica
"sold out", but you have to admit that they changed their style quite dramatically
in a way which upset a lot of the fans, hence the backlash about selling
out blah blah blah. That is a little bit pathetic. But yes, it is true
that Metallica took a totally new approach with Load, and while that's
not selling out, I will say that there is some justification for the fans
being upset. But kudos should also go to Metallica for doing what they
want to do. It doesn't matter whether I like their new stuff or not (I
don't), from an artistic standpoint, what they did should be respected.
I've never called myself a fan of any band, just a fan of metal in general,
and when Metallica changed their style, I didn't moan about them selling
out, I just went out and got some CDs which I would enjoy. What I'm saying
is that they should be allowed to do whatever they want. If you don't like
it don't listen to them. And this Napster thing...well it's great, but
Metallica do have a point. Now pro-Napster people can say that they only
use Napster to decide whether they want to buy the album, you have to realize
that not everyone does that, and it does affect sales in a small...perhaps
(and I said PERHAPS) Metallica are taking a stand against Napster, with
not only themselves in mind, but perhaps other bands who were also being
affected. It's just that they were big enough to do it. That's not really
a fact, but I would like to think that way. I'm not a big fan of Metallica
at all, at least not the new stuff, but that doesn't give me the right
to bash them for changing in the name of progression (perhaps a little
too drastically for some) and I'm not a Napster user, but I realize it
has its pros and cons, in that you can get rare and cool stuff, but aren't
artists right for feeling threatened? Anyway, congrats Doc, on an article
with some valid points, some of which I don't necessarily agree with, but
which are valid nonetheless...there I got thru this without swearing or
being insulting...can't we all just get along..?
Ender
Owning mp3's is not illegal,
and sharing mp3's is not illegal. What napster is doing (encouraging the
sharing of mp3's through a private organization) has not yet been determined
legal or illegal. There is much of our intellectual "property" as many
might say that we cannot in fact keep for our own. Metallica's music is
no exception.
ZOMBIE
PEOPLE SAY METALLICA DIDN'T
SELLOUT,BUT THEN THEY GO AND SAY EVERYBAND ON MTV, KORN LIMP BIKIT (BOTH
OF WHOM I HATE)ARE SELLOUTS. YET METALLICA IS ON MTV JUST AS MUCH AND THEY
DO MTV NEWS FOR CRYING OUT LOUD. THE NAPSTER THING IS EVEN MORE STUPID,
IF ITS SUCH A BIG DEAL HOW COME NO ONE ELSE IS SAYING ANYTHING. BECAUSE
EVEY OTHER BAND REALIZES THAT THEY ALREADY HAVE MILLIONS OF DOLLARS AND
THEY DON'T NEED TO TAKE AWAY WHAT THE FANS LIKE. METALLICA I CAN UNDERSTAND
THAT THEY WOULD SUE NAPSTER BUT THEY ARE ALSO THREATINING TO SUE THEIR
FANS. AND WE SAY THEY AREN'T SELLOUTS AND CARE ONLY ABOUT THE FANS, YET
THEY WANT TO MAKE MORE MONEY AND ARE THREATENING TO SUE THE FANS. AND THEY
STILL AREN'T SELLOUTS?
dr fever
thank god i got the new
column done...it was getting ridiculous in here!
Metal Wolf
You are right in one way
but wrong another.See I do not get it that most people today who are still
Metallica fans disagree that Metallica did not sell out.You tellt hem what
is their favorite album and they do not even say nothing about their new
stuff.Most Metallica fans constantly live off their old stuff.See I used
to be a Metallica fan and I did the same thing but now I am not because
I was sick of listening too their old stuff and hoping they would make
a better album next. I was sick and tired of it.So they keep their power
on the stage and not in the recording studio, that is one thing that I
can honestly say that they can still do pretty good after all the kissing
up they do too MTV. They cans till pull off a live show for allt he people
who want to see their old stuff and not their new stuff.In my view you
guys can go off reliving over and over the past of Metallica while I go
listen to bigger,better, heavier, harder and true to fan like bands.But
in my view selling out is saying one thing as a war cry for oer 10 years
that got many people into them, and then all of a sudden be for what they
were against and what their fans were against is selling out.And changing
in a drastic way is also selling out.Example, see many of yout hink Korn
sold out because they changed their sound when the same thing happens with
Metallica.But you do not go insult Metallica, no you insult Korn.When both
Korn and Metallica did the same thing.
Byrnsanderson
I totally agree with you!
Intellectual property rights must be protected. True music fans will realize
that if they refuse to pay the people who make the music eventually the
music will die. I don't ever want the music to die. I pay for my music.
I want a band that I like to have the money I spent on the CD so they can
keep making more music and playing more concerts.
SubXavier
Changing your sound does
not equal selling out. Hypothetical situation: You are in a band, and have
finally broken through, selling millions of copies of your 4th album. A
couple of albums later, people still love your music, but you hate it.
You think it's a repetitive, boring rehash of your old stuff. Feeling that
way, you radically (or not so radically) change your style. This style
happens to turn some of your old fans into "scorned" customers, ranting
about you being a "sellout," and all the while, you didn't give a damn
about your fans, or about certain television music stations, as you've
been stating for years. You did it for yourself. I'm wondering how you'd
feel if you sold give-or-take 13-million less records on your new album
than on your old, breakthrough one, and be called a money-hording suckup.
MasterOfPuppetz
since when is changing mean
selling out, there change didnt make them more money or make them more
popular, sure i think load was pretty weak but thats my opinion and metallica
has a right to change there music if they want. sure id rather listen to...
oh say there true best album Master Of Puppets than load but that doesent
mean they suck, they can still deliver all the good stuff live which means
that they are still a great band in my mind, this hardly makes them "musical
wimps" oh well, im gonna go read the boy band bashing article so i wont
be comeing back here again
Metal Wolf
Kill'em All-very heavy Ride
the lighting-heavy Master Of Puppets- heavy And Justice Off All they were
all the same because not much was used in computers. Black-mellow/heavy
Load:mellow Re-Lod:Hard garage INC:The only good album they made since
And Justice for all S & M-do not even go there when it comes to how
soft I disappear-crap See I have heard any of the albums over and over
and if you put Load and up against Kill'em All there is a big difference.One
Kill'em All is fast, heavier.Load is hard,slow and too many computers that
work on the sound.The only way I could forgive Metallica is if they kick
Carson Daily in the nuts, and then burn Bob Rock to death. Then get Flemming
Rasmussen back to do their new album and stop using all those computers
to work on their sound.Tell me what is you favorite album because I garuntee
most of anyone is not going to say their new stuff.Master Of Puppets yes
changing in each album is good but the thing is many of the fans like when
you keep to a certain type of sound.So when they hear it somewhere without
knowing who the band is first they would already know. Like Iron Maiden,
example would be heavy guitars with a low tune as well as a opera like
singer with the length he goes by screaming. AC/DC witht he hard, loud
and rock and rollish type sound.They never changed that much and they still
are good.Pantera with the heavy guitars, the screaming of the vocals, the
machine gun like drums of the drummer. They all got famous and they still
keep their sound but if you check each album the are different in one way
but stay the same sound.Metallica changed their sound completely.Thus meaning
sold out.
Metal Wolf
Metallica? The best? That
does not go together. They would not derserve the best ! Why because it
said on Behind The music, they got no help. And they always said that if
you were looking for cutey pies, this is not your band, look at them now.And
I have done what both Dr.Fever and you said, I have heard MEtallica over
and over and I think their old stuff is a whole lot more heaiver than their
new stuff.In my view they are musical wimps, they could neve rplay as well
as they used too. Metallica blows because they kiss up too MTV!Just liek
Korn,Limp Bizkit,Kid Rock.No wonder they are all a group.
SubXavier
Why, why do people believe
they have to defend everything they think and do from other opinions? *sigh*
MasterOfPuppetz
one more thing, metallica
may not be the heaviest band of all time but there still the best becuse
there music is better in general, plus they were the heaviest during the
80s, Hands Down, no competition
MasterOfPuppetz
STOP WITH THE SELLING OUT
BS ALREADY, ITS SO STUPID IT MAKES ME WANT TO PUKE, heres a thought, metallica
did change there style every album, and i accept the fact that there was
a bigger change from black to load, and everyone seems to think they changed
to be popular, hmm... black sold 18 million copies and load sold like 5
million, its obiuos this argument makes no sense, its called a style change,
metallica was just playing what they felt, which is the most important
thing, I think there old stuff was better to but i wont hate them for playing
what they want to play, they would have been sell outs if they had kept
playing there old style even if they didnt want to. if you study load it
wasnt even in the alternitive style, it was its own music which was the
most important thing anyway, as for the bsb thing, i dont know what your
talking about but how do you know they even knew who the award was for,
i suppose its possible they knew but hell i dont know how those award shows
work but theres a good possibility that they were handed an envelope and
they read what was on it, another thing is the fact that you said they
were against MTV, not true at all, They knew mtv didnt want anything to
do with them so they didnt make videos, as for you people who still think
metallica sold out go piss and moan on your own time and dont waste space
on here
Metal Wolf
That is true that bands
are suppose too change but the thing is from what I said last is that they
changed their attitude that their fans loved them for. Meaning when they
first came around they hated MTV, hated radio hated all of them that were
not into thrash heavy emtal and stuff like that.Now all of a sudden they
being praised by MTV and Much, and they are hugging and kissing up too
the Backstreet Boys. That is the way I think they sold out. And you are
right about Napster having to change. But the thing is I do not know why
you have to come down on the people who spend their time on Napster. I
just came back from a 30 min bike around my town. Because not everyone
who uses Napster is a lazy person. But in my opoinion they sold out by
changing their attitude about teeny bopers.You said on the MTV thing that
Korn used to be good till they wer eplayed alot on MTV.Well the same fate
has met Metallica, why do you think MTV always brags that Metallica is
the heavyiest band in the world when they are not?
Dr Fever
gawdamm, metal wulf talked
alot didn't he!?!?!?!? jeez! anyway, people tend to forget...bands change.
now listen, i'm as guilty as the next person about loving older metallica
at least a little more than newer..but shyt..they're still metallica! think
about this too...listen to every album, starting with "Kill..." all the
way through "Reload". they changed musically on EVERY album. that's the
beauty of it..if a band stays exactly the same over and over again, then
they become stale...it's evolution. we don't want to recognize it in school
(can you say creation-ism) but we damn well better recognize it in music..it
happens every day. ALSO, first, i wouldn't need to download metallica songs
on napster..second, if i had been booted by napster for downloading a metallica
song i wouldn't care. because, unlike so many of you it seems, there is
more to my life than downloading some song on napster..i actually go outdoors
from time to time and get away from the computer..the sun doesn't rise
and set on napsters a$$ as far as i'm concerned...and, if i wasn't clear
on it in the column, let me clarify now: i don't hate napster, i don't
want to see it go away..but, like i've said to other people, if they would
pay their BMI and ASCAP fees (the way that artists get there money...every
radio station/video station/bar/club pays 'em..if not, they get shut the
hell down..and that works for every kinda format). Napster is NOT a bad
idea..but the planning of it just needs some refinement...but, people,
realize this; i've said it once and i'll say it again..there is more to
life than a damn computer...get out and experience things away from the
computer...if not, we as a human race are going to become completely dependent
on computers that the apacolyptic visions of movies like "the matrix" will
come true..but, hey, what do i know, i just write for the website.
r0b0$3xU@|_
Hey, Dr Fever, don't give
a shit about Metallica, but Napster is a force to get rid of the MTV culture
you rant about in your last article. Most napster users are teenagers,
so are most Korn and Limp Bizkit fans. Record companies aren't going to
push these bands if people won't buy their CDs.
SubXavier
Yes, Wolf, your idea would
have been better accepted by the citizens of the Republic of Napster, and
probably by Metallica's fans as well. But when you go deep into the music
business, it becomes, in addition to the music itself, just that: business.
I think it was brave of Metallica to put out S&M, something that they
had hoped to gain some fans and renew some old ones with. I myself was
waiting for the day when a metal/rock band would dramatize their music
with an orchestra, and although Metallica would have not been my first
choice, it's still a good combination in my mind. And in response to the
Billboard awards issue: any artist, no matter what type, sold out or not,
must give respect to other artists, especially in public, and even more
especially on camera. What were they supposed to do, punch them on camera?
And so what if Metallica's trying to retain their funds? You're the one
who bought the record in the first place.
Metal Wolf
Well I have read a bit of
the words said about Metallica/Napster.Now I can go down and say that Metallica
in my words suck today. But I do understand why they would be mad for Napster,
I understand that.But the thing is, lets go back a few years ago when they
made Kill'em All. They were loud, fast, and heavy. They said screw MTV,
they said we are not going to be those teeny bopers because they hated
them. They said that they do it for the fans.Before their first album they
gave away demo tapes to fans and that is how they got famous.Napster is
a bit like that. Metallica was good metal, but then after Black, their
music changed.If you put Master Of Puppets on the stereo and compare it
too Load, there is a big difference. See now I was normal Metallica fan.In
fact I never really like Enter Sandman that much as well as the black album.I
heard the black album and I liked it, but that was the last album I bought.In
fact the first album I bought was Load. I liked it because before I was
a pop fan.One think I will thank Metallica for was that they got me into
metal.But the thing is that when I heard Re-Load, I thought that album
was crap. I only liked Memory Remains and Unforgiven 2, at this time I
did not know of black album and all that other song.But when I got And
Justice For All and ones before it, I loved those albums more than their
newer albums. See at this time everyone said Metallica sold out. Now I
just said, I just like the music and that is it. Garage INC came out and
I liked it. But when S & M came out, I started too think "What was
Metallica thinking?". I heard the whole album and I nearly fell asleep.Now
I do not mind orchestra but when you play Metallica songs in orchestra,
in my view they blew.But I said oh well their next album they should get
it done.But one thing that made me a Metallica hater is what happened at
the Billboards awards. Metallica came in and gave an award to the Backstreet
Boys or NCYNC, I do not know who it was because I was pissed off. See like
I said before, they hated pop and MTV .And now they are hugging and shaking
hands with the bands metal fans hate the most. Now do you call that a true
metal representer, in my view that is not.And for one thing why is it that
MTV calls them the most heaviest band in the world, give me a break. There
are more heavier bands, it is just that Metallica now was become MTV's
"metal" band, that is my opoinion though. So if anyone likes Metallica,
fine go on and like them but I am saying that in my view they insult Metal
by calling themselves Metallica. You can insult me or you can agree.All
I say is that Metallica did sell out, but now a days it seems every band
has sold out in opoinion to fans. iN my view, that word sold out is being
over rated and streched. Now on too Napster thing, see I had napster but
I was one of the 300 000 people who were kicked off. See I had 10 Metallica
songs. 5 were parodies and sound clips like Metallica playing Star Wars
songs. And the Metallica/Britany Spears mix of so f*cking crazy which I
thought it was funny. Now when I had Napster.I had all their albums, and
their box sets. If Metallica asked me on e-mail or whatever to take my
Metallica songs off my Napster, I would have. No harm , no foul. But they
kick me off, which in one way I understood but another way I was infuriated.Now
I ask you this Dr.Fever, if you had Metallica songs lets say and you were
kicked off, what would you think.I thought that it was stupid.Napster in
my opoinion is bad and good. Bad for bands when it comes to record sales
and upcomming albums, but good when getting their music around.But I can
tell you right now before I had Napster,the only bands I liked was Metallica
and AC/DC. But when I got napster I had a chance to check out songs from
other bands and decide if I wanted to buy the album. Now I like AC/DC,
Iron Maiden, Stone Temple Pilots, Alice Cooper, Pantera, System Of A Down,
Motley Crue, Rollins Band and the list goes on. Napster I use as a tool
for deciding if the band is good or not.See Metallica says that their album
sales gone down when Napster came along.Come on they have been around for
years and all their albums when more than tripple platinum.Why should they
whine because they are going down, they are losing money?Come on Metallica
is more rish that any metal band, you heard on VH1 Rock Show one day that
Kirk Hammett betted someone his porshe that the black album was not going
to sell a certain number, that is how rish he was, he gave a way a porshe.See
they should not be whining about Napster giving away their old songs.They
should make sure that their new songs and albums do not meet the same fate.See
if your old albums sales go down but they all when tripple or more platinum,
what is the worry if the prices go down because it is not like it would
get any bigger anyway. But make sure that the next albums do not go bad.
Like making something on the cd which not allows the fan to burn songs
off the CD too give away.Or be more protective of the songs and not showing
them off till the album is out.In my view Metallica should not cry all
about it, they should learn to avoid it.They are not stoping the trading
by stoping Napster. Because everyone is still trading through other sites.Dr.Fever
I respect your opoinion on the subject, I disagree in one way and agree
in another.But that is my opoinion.
jrotis@mrpink.net
Indy,s depend on Napster,
sure its okay once you got a record deal and getting ripped of even more.
Zero
wow, is this arguement over
who's right or wrong STILL going on? why bother? neither camp is going
to cross over anytime soon, least of all when what COULD be well-thouhgt
out arguements degenerates into 4-letter words and namecalling. i came
a long while ago and read this thing and toyed with the idea of posting
my take on the issue, but being called an "idiot" or told to f-off is a
waste of thought...if i wanna waste braincells, i'll go get drunk
Dr Fever
yeah bandit, you're right
i suppose...and yeah, it had been fun.
SubXavier
*raises an eyebrow* Guess
sarcasm isn't a big thing in Bandit's world.
bandit
Hey doc,I guess we agree
to disagree.Sure was fun though.peace
Dr Fever
hmmm...bandit, this is absurd...you
kill me man! Yes, I stole a denis miller line for the last part of my column,
but, it fits cuz it's the truth...i could be wrong. sounds so perfect...and,
as far as you go...your argument is so old and dated...it's so old that,
once again, it sickens me. you talk shyt on me for not coming up with my
own material..well, why don't you come up with something new and improved...and,
something else, you bytch about my column, but (ya know what) you come
back here time after time and respond to the fan speak remarks...which
means two things..1. you're hitting antimusic and 2. You read my column
in the first place....but hey, what do i know, i'm drunk..so, once again,
i could be wrong.
bandit
Can't you come up with your
own sh*t.Do you think your Dennis Miller.Cant come up with your own style
so you just copy his.A feeble atempt I must say."of course I could be wrong"your
more then wrong Dr.Poser your a un-original little B*tch.Metallica suckssssssssssssssss.
Dr Fever
Once again, bandit you prove
your stupidity...i can sum up the metallica thing (the orchestra ESPECIALLY)
by quoting Lars(on the subject of S and M): "For all of you who wonder
what Cliff would have thought...Cliff Burton would have approved". That
sums that up (if you don't think the quote's legit, checkout the S and
M DVD..you do know what a DVD is right bandit?? that's the thing that replaced
VCR's..you do know what VCR's are right Bandit?? Those are the things that
replaced the Beta machine you still watch your Iron Madien bootlegs on)..basically
Bandit, it's easy for you to come in here and be billy-bad-ass and call
me a poser and all that shyt....You don't know anything about me...you
read my column(s) and presume to know me..give it up. And one final point
(that seems to be lost on SO MANY of the people who read my column) Like
I say at the end of every one of them..."Of course I could be wrong.."
in other words, IT'S JUST MY OPINION. Get over yourself and find something
better to do with YOUR time than to WASTE mine.
bandit
Damn,It took you all day
to think of that and you even admit your a piece of Sh*t.Who's the idiot?Idiot.SUBmariner/proffesor
XAVIER
SubXavier
I'm glad your idiocy level
has surpassed your intellect... you make me feel smart. You have... let's
see... two IQ points left. Try rubbing them together and see if you can
start a fire. And being a piece of sh*t has nothing to do with this discussion!
*hides* PS: Where the hell did comic boy come from?
bandit
Listen here comic boy,brown
nose somewhere else.This is between me and Johnny Fever.I'm not b*tching
you piece of sh*t I'm stateing the truth.If kill'em all had sounded like
load thier would be no metallica.
SubXavier
Bandit... Dr. Fever's here
because he actually has an opinion he can expand and change people's minds
with. All you're doing is coming in here and b*tching. Just because someone
gets a record that's popular doesn't mean they're sheep, and if they get
an obsure album it doesn't mean they're underground fanatics. I could come
on here, tell someone they suck, and leave, too... not very thought provoking
in my mind. Being objective is what article-writing is all about... something
which you have no clue how to do. Give Fever, me and everyone else a break,
and shut up.
bandit
Truth hurts don't it poser.Seems
like I hit a nerve,I'm sure you've been called that alot eh?You are a puppy
who doesen't know a fukkin thing about metallica,because if you did you
would know they sold out.Cliff Burton would turn over in his grave if he
heard that lame sh*t they recorded in the 90s.Kill'em All,Ride The Lightning,and
Master of Puppets all are master pieces I suggest you go out and buy them
then listen to them.Then come back and tell me they didnt sell out.If your
mind hasen't changed then you need to be fired so I can Have this space
to really write something thought provoking.
Dr Fever
Bandit...you disgust me.
First, how did I get a job writing for this site?? IT'S NOT A JOB!!! I
write for this site cuz aG and someothers liked what I had to say..cuz,
unlike so many of you, I have an opinion..i just don't sit on my ass and
bytch about things..i try and change 'em! Second...you know how I ended
up with "..Justice". My mom bought it for me through a cd club, she thought
it looked like something i'd like..hell, i was 12, i didn't give a flying
fukkk if shyt was on MTV or not..hell, at the time I dind't even have cable
so i couldn't have told you what the fukkk MTV was..all I know was that
I liked it. And, as far as your comments about true Metallicats turned
there backs on 'Tallica after Load...once again, you disgust me. You are
the textbook example of a fair-weather, poser fan! You, and people like
you, make me flat out sick. Of course, i'm sure this will fall on deaf
ears because your kind come through here once, talk some shyt and never
come back to keep up the argument you started. So, i guess what i'm trying
to say to you is this: FUKKK OFF!!
SubXavier
If the future consists of
record and internet swapping companies ripping artists off more and more,
I feel afraid for the artists that will be in the next decade or so (maybe
including myself).
bandit
So DR.fever your first metallica
cd was...and justice for all.In my eyes that makes you a total fu#ckin
poser,I bet your favorite song was ONE right?How the hell did you get a
job on this awesome site.ONE was the begining of the end.TRUE metallicats
turned thier backs on the band when they did the same to us by putting
out load.Napster is the future.
SHroomDevil
So much hate. Calm down.
Different opinions don't make each other dumbasses. No one is an idiot
for not thinking the same way you do. That's just really really f**king
arrogant on your part.
Metal Militia
Some idiot down there compared
Metallica to Led Zeppelin (take note... it's spelled ZeppElin, not Zepplin).
Led Zeppelin was a blues based hard rock band from start to finish. Metallica
was a thrash metal band turned hard rock band because thrash wasn't popular
anymore and wanted to 'stay on top'. Now, comparing Zep's career to Metallica
of the 80s in their respective genres is a much more accurate comparison.
If Metallica had quit right before the black album, they would be legends...
but, none of you trendy sheep would know about them, only to us metal fans
would they be legends. Now, they're just a joke
scully
First off NAPSTER IS SATAN!!!!
and secondly i am ALSO a DIE hard metallica fan.. my only difference form
u is that my first cd EVER was metallicas black album.. ************NAPSTER
IS SATAN!!!!!!!!!!********************
SubXavier
Well, first of all, it's
not my analogy. Second of all, I'm blaming Napster for the illegal posession
and distribution of copyrighted material, as Metallica, Dre, etc. is, not
the people taking it, although they are partially to blame as well. In
a way, I think Napster is a great, very noble idea, but it just doesn't
work, because people worked making this music, and deserve the fruits of
their efforts. I believe that drug pushers, not their clientele, should
be punished, and that thought crosses over to here... Napster should take
blame for its actions. This may be a stretch, but Napster is like communism...
a good, pure idea at heart and on paper, but in reality, it's a total catastrophe.
Balin
SubXavier, your backwards
analogy is the same kind of thinking behind suing GUN manufacturers for
murder. Taking your analogy, Napster is the coke machine, but KIDS are
loading it, and KIDS are taking the cokes out. If you're going to hold
someone responsible, then it MUST be the USERS of Napster (and I'm one
of them). The problem is, it's the equivalent of jaywalking - everyone
does it and there's almost no way of stopping them. The REAL question here,
is how HARMFUL Napster use will be to sales... they made the same arguments
about FM radio and cassette tapes... the FACT is that these media only
engender greater public interest in music... and sales WILL increase. Metallica
isn't just paddling upstream... they're being stupid.
the one and
only Messiah
I agree with you SubXavier,
except for one thing. Napster doesn't "offer" the music. The people offer
the music through the program. Maybe Napster is offering a playing ground
for the distribution of the music. Maybe they are making it possible for
users to trade and share songs. But is Napster responsible for the use
and distribution of songs that have made their way online by people stealing
them and sharing them. I think it is the users fault and they are abusing
the software. Like you said, Napster is the middle man, and there is heat
involved with being the middle man. I just don't think that Napster should
take as much heat as it has been. It all reminds me of one thing, as DJF
and I talked about on my porch. It is kind of like renting a movie or DVD
and making a copy, even though there is a FBI warning at the beginning
of the tape. It is for my own private use, not for distribution, sale,
or public access. I rent it, copy it, and watch it. Napster users can do
the same. But if they decide to make a profit off of the songs, that I
feel is wrong. The truth of the matter is that music is now digital, and
no body will stop the pirating going on. It is easier than it ever was
before. Even if Napster goes down for this, there will always be another
software providing the capability to find and download songs you want.
I don't say it is right or wrong. I personally believe that it is all for
the person to decide. If it is for personal use, I see no wrong being committed.
But if the person is charging a fee for a copy or stealing the song to
make a quick buck...that is wrong. Napster is just as you put it,...the
middle man. How many of you have watched the movie "FRIDAY"? Smokey played
by Chris Tucker, was the middle man...yet we all rooted for him as the
film progressed against BIG WORM, Drug Lord extrodinare. Napster is like
Smokey, fun and entertaining, but wrong for doing what it or he is doing.
Just a thought :)
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