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Cold - Year Of The Spider
by Dan Grote

Cold - Year Of The Spider
Label: Flip/Geffen Records
Rating

Cold are just one of those bands that have no reason to exist. The band makes the same cookie-cutter woe-is-me music that has suffocated modern rock radio since 1998. Despite the fact that, in an era in which said genre is petering out, with poor sales showings by former industry leaders such as Korn and Papa Roach, Cold continue to press on with their depression-lite.

Song after song on Year of the Spider, the band’s sophomore disc, lead singer Scooter Ward goes back to the pain well, with song titles like “Suffocate” and “Cure My Tragedy” and anti-conformist refrains like “I Don’t Want Your Remedy.”

The laughable part is that the album ends with a song called “Kill the Fucking Music Industry,” an over-the-top complaint letter about how The Big Five control how people think, featuring the refrain of “Sick of all this monotony.” Meanwhile, anyone with an ear can name five bands that released similar sounding fourth-hand grunge albums this year alone (Cinder, Social Burn, Outspoken, to name a few).

Of course, when it comes time to actually push the album on an unsuspecting public, every band needs a quasi-distinguishing single. And so when said time came for Cold, the band turned not to Scooter’s own songwriting prowess but instead to Rivers Cuomo, the contemporary bastard child of Brian Wilson and Elvis Costello. “Stupid Girl,” with its bouncing lyrics and carefully metered singing, is as different as Cold get on Year of the Spider, but by the same token, because the band went to outside sources for inspiration, perhaps this is proof that anybody could have sang that song, including Cuomo himself, who was probably just doing Fred Durst a favor anyway.

VERDICT: Year of the Spider is staler than day-old doughnuts and only a third as tasty. It’s hard to understand why nu-metal whinalong clones are popping up like the hydra in a year in which the genre is obviously on its way out if not one more album (Come on Staind, tank already) away from being dead.
 



CD Info and Links


Tracks:
Remedy
Suffocate
Cure My Tragedy (A Letter To God)
Stupid Girl
Don't Belong
Wasted Years
Whatever You Became
Sad Happy
Rain Song
The Day Seattle Died
Change The World
Black Sunday
Kill The Music Industry
 
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Fan Speak - Your Turn, What do you think?


They call you 
What do you think ?:

Fan Speak:

Posted by Cold Army 101:
These are your opinions and usually I respect peoples opinions but did you ever stop to think that maybe your listening to the wrong type of rock or that maybe your not 'getting' the lyrics I dont mean listening to them and being able to type them down, i mean really hear them and understand what they are about, When you can do that you will know why we love Cold so much. I own all of theirs CD's and will continue to buy any CD or single they put out. I listen to them like 24/7 and i never tire of hearing Scooters voice. They are one of the few rock bands I actually like 1. they dont scream at me. 2. I can relate to their songs more than others. Most bands think of something that will sound cool or is half truth. Scooter writes what is completely true and you can understand it, relate to it. Like in Rain Song, this song sticks to my heart because My friend shot himself. "Did she take her own life?" thats a verse in the song switch She with He Bam there you go that song I dedicated to Charley(R.I.P.). In Dont Belong Ive felt that way as have many people. So no maybe their songs aren't the way YOU'D like them to be and maybe YOU cant understand them but to all of us cold fans they are the best and will remain the best. And people like you who try to tear them apart **** you find something better to do.

P.S. I like Staind too. and I cant wait for Scooter's solo The Witch. What are you gonna ****ing say about that?


Posted by ..::blacksunday::..:
cold is the best band in the whole world!!! not even kidding!! i listen to the 24/7!! ha i am right now this album is actually my favorite !!!


Posted by Dagana The Lead Vampire:
i love the music and the group..they are awesome as hell, and personally..i'd want to get lesson lol. because i can play..but i wanna make my own music..i dun wanna copy people....*shrug*...well yeah!..THEYRE AWESOME!!!!


Posted by michele:
You guys are awsome i love your music


Posted by sosaidh:
I think it's a bit pointless to go on and on about how the reviewer got this wrong and that wrong, even if his aforementioned mistakes are the most pathetic, banal mistakes that anyone who was doing his job properly wouldn't have made (hint hint Mr. Groat). I mean, I was introduced to this band just five days ago and already I know more about Cold than this so-called 'proffessional reviewer'. It was dissappointing for me to see someone in such a respectful position embarress himself in such a way. I've been googling for the last hour and a half to find out stuff about Cold, i really respect them as musicians and even though they're not all grand-spanking new, what is these days? They're good, they're heartfelt, they're serious, and that should be enough.


Posted by ROTTEN FISH:
COLD F*CKING ROCKS AND FOR YOU OTHER PEOPLE THAT DONT LIKE THEM GO BACK TO LIKING YOUR GAY BANDS LIKE SUM 41 AND LILLIX


Posted by WhenNecessary:
This reviewer had to be living under a rock for the past 10 years. Cold's sound is the most original I've heard since the early 90's. As for the dark lyrics, yeah its been done before, but never with the grace and guts, and power as 13 Ways and Year of the Spider. I have to admit I didn't know about the self titled album, but I certainly will have to check it out.


Posted by Colonel Kurtz:
mallcore...thus it is gay like all you other mallcore Julyia C lovers. Go for real metal or dont listen to it at all. F*ckin neonazi mallcore music for ignorant kids


Posted by Masud:
Its a damn' joss album...i really dont care ur tragedy n' wested yeard :)


Posted by Intelligent:
If you question scooter's lyrics, read (just read, not listen to) Cure My Tragedy. Guys, have a girl read these lyrics, and you'll have her crying. Hell, read it yourself and see if you don't come close. It's a sure way to convince a girl you have feelings without looking like a pussy. The words are that powerful. Since this is a review and not an essay, I'll only use one example. But I could easily pick one of the other 12. And God, have you people not heard Gone Away?


Posted by WickedChick:
I personally enjoy Cold and the music they produce. They are different from a lot of bands especially in their sound. Their lyrics speak to the vast majority of music listeners, because everyone has hard days where they just want to listen to some music that expresses their thoughts. Cold, by far, is my favorite band and i feel their music has grow from their first release and will continue to do so.


Posted by Jasonfromfl:
As someone who pretty much hates just about all new music, I must say that Cold is one of the few newer bands that I really like. Although they do sing alot about sorrow, which is something I have grown to hate about todays music, they do it with what I consider at least an original sound. I have all 3 albums and consider them in my top 10 favorite groups. Keep in mind Led Zeppelin is my favorite, so I do have some damn good taste in music. Cold rocks, and thats all I have to say about that.


Posted by Cold rocker:
Cold id the best CD i have ever had, besides System of a Down! i dont see how some people dont like them! Cold is the freakin bomb!


Posted by hottie:
i think that cold is awesome and i will never stop listening to them


Posted by MSIorDIE:
oh, and scooter's voice sounds like eddie vedder with a cold. wait a minute...


Posted by MSIorDIE:
i was moderately interested in their first cd, and i own it, but the rest of their material is about the same thing. it's kinda boring. i think this reviewer kinda hit the nail on the head. the only song i like on the new record is "stupid girl", and that's only cuz it's catchy. and btw, how come they decided to be all "goth" after their first record? they weren't "goth" then...


Posted by Batimar:
who ever says Cold suck well i have one thing to say i dont think anyone can touch their talent the CD totaly kicks ass and way the hell better then marylin manson and all those fags


Posted by KElly:
I think that whoever wrote this is stupid. I happen to like "Cold" very much. I think they're songs are very good.


Posted by Bull:
dude this is like their best album yet, you might wanna rethink that rating


Posted by Cool Man!:
I agree with every other guy who wrote a comment about your stupid comment. What in the H!LL are you talking about. Cold happens to be one of my favorites and on top. What kind of music do you listen to?! the lyrics are awesome and so is the music itself. I am going to keep on rocking and you can just hip hop out of here! Dum Dumb


Posted by kavu:
COld is one of the best bands what r u talking bout? ...stupid kid...


Posted by jezmondo the stoner:
cold is incredible. cold are the kind of dudes who are seriously gonna put wannabe rock like good charlotte in their places.does any 1 like adema i think they rule if u do after your comment write ********


Posted by reenie:
i think this cd rules i dont usually go for anythig as heavy as cold but at the moment im finding it addictive


Posted by Fizzy:
Your a BLEEPING Moron. Cold kicks major Bleeping A**! Do you even write or play your own music? If not who are u to judge?


Posted by mark1241:
What the hell are you talking about. Scooter ward can write some of the best lyrics out there, he can put a lot of heart into his music. Some ppl dont take that for granted.


Posted by Shagrash:
this article was bullsh!t. While reading it, I was wondering if the guy even knew who cold was. Calling year of the spider there "sophmore" album, this is thre 3rd album, now, yes, it wasnt as great as expected, but, it was still great, there self titled debut was much better than this, and so was 13 ways to bleed on stage, listen to the other two before tryin to listen to this


Posted by ShadowMercenary:
Oh wow, this conversation/argument thing is still going!? Dear lord, things have gotten immature since I last posted... oh wait, they started off that way. Look, I like Cold. I will admit this is not their best CD, but that doesn't change the fact that this is one of the worst reviews I've ever seen. There is nothing in the way of detail or actual reasons behind any of the comments given. Now then, I'm also ashamed, at this point, to associate myself with a lot of the other Cold fans here because I'm tired of seeing the petty namecalling and "You dun kno wut yur talkin bout! Cold is teh best band eva!!!!" posts. Cold's music works on an intellectual level well above 2nd grade, so it amazes me that so many of the fans representing Cold here don't.


Posted by holly:
i love cold so much. they are the greatest band ever. all there songs like mean so much to me and cold like changed my life and helped me deal with so much sh**. but every1 that says cold is gay or sumthin they should prolly kill themselves!


Posted by Mike:
Cold have been around since 1998 so why wait til now to dis them. If you knew anything about the band you would know what the songs were about and weren't the mainstream nu metal bull s*** you think they are. Open your eyes Dan Grote what do you know. A lot less than alot of us!!! You are a corporate (insert your own insult).


Posted by Cold932:
Allright, first of all..you're a f**kin idiot because cold is one of the best bands out there. Also, like so many have pointed out to you, this is their third album, f**kin get it right dumba$$. Im sick of people talking bad about cold because they arent on MTV every 2 seconds or they dont have freakishly large album sales. They're music touches on a lot having to do with pain because thats what music is about man, expression, and hes going through a lot.If you had even the slightest clue what the f**k you were talkin about, you wouldn't have wrote what you did. Not only are they ORIGINAL...yeah, i know its a new concept around here...but they also have the best fan base there is. So before you continue and TRY to do your job, get your facts straight and actually LISTEN instead of being a typical critic. F**K YOU.


Posted by Meyereh:
I can't believe that someone could think that low of the GREATEST band in the whole f****** world!!! Scooter is my IDOL and GOD and no one talks s*** about any of them or their lyrics! They are my favorite band and yeah...I am sooo pissed that someone could actually bring themselves to talk such s*** about people they no nothing about, true sickness!


Posted by Lyndsay:
Cold is an awesome band and their cd "Year of the Spider" is one of the best around! I love that kind of rock and I think they should keep up all the hard work that they have been doing because they are doing GREAT!!


Posted by Christy:
Cold has to be one of the best bands out there. They don't sound like all those other bands out there. I think that a lot of people can relate to the songs that Scooter Ward writes. More people need to know about what a great band they are.


Posted by TheGuyWhoSmokesTooMuch:
Cold is an incredible band. Their lyrics have depth. They draw from the same sources as crappy emo bands, but they don't wine and complain and actually look for solutions to their problems. I espacially commend them for writing "Sad Happy" That song is about a fan who came up to them and said that their music kept her going in life, even when her dad has been raping her. Cold has a heart, a soul, and should be commended instead. Also, this is their THIRD ALBUM, so it's not their SOPHMORE DISC. If you are going to review an album, check your facts first. I have this disc as my personal #3 of the year right behind APC and Iron Maiden.


Posted by Rick:
I don't know what you were smoking when you wrote that but you are wrong on all counts. First off, Cold's music has a very distinct sound and to compare them to Socialburn is insane. The music has important meaning to the ARTISTS who wrote and preformed the songs as well as fans such as myself. Personally i thought it was one of the best CD's, of the three they released not two. I can't comprehend what you are talking about, Cold is by far one of the best bands around.


Posted by roorifis:
And , sorry for not saying it all in the one paragraph , Cold has musci which really means something to me , Suffocate especially and please do not mock the titles of the songs . It's whats in the song that counts , whether thats the lyrics or just the music , this music means something to a lot of people and again i'll say Cold must be tapping into something . bye


Posted by roorifis:
I think the same as most people here except that do you really have to swear at the poor people ? It's not their fault they dont understand the music . And no I dont feel stupid for writing that cos you gave me this space to write what i want so i did and deal with it . Most people think your review is crap so Cold must be doing something right to win all of their support . bye


Posted by blackjesus:
gypsy, gypsy, gypsy. "Jewish bastard" is a figure of speach, not a condemnation of religious beliefs. And as for Jesus being a Jew (I do know that too), I couldnt give a sh!t if he buddist, it doesnt change the fact that he doesnt exist. Anyone who is too retarded to understand sarcasm in its pure form, not only doesnt deserve an audience, but doesnt deserve to be able to reproduce. You should be sterilized so that we can remove stupidity from our gene pool. Yes (just in case you dont get this one either) a theoretic pool, not one that you can swim in. Anyhow, YOTS is a wicked CD. I heavily recommend this one. Excellent art by Scooter.


Posted by bid daddy pat:
what the hell is wrong with you guys?!?! I think this cd is really good and is one of my favorites Along with Staind. are you guys pouting because you cant make good music like them or be positive. they might be some Michle Jackson or whoever you tastless idiots like but people might actually like different music. mabey people like the cd because they can relate to it or had good music. people dont nessisarily listen to music for the lyrics. would you guys be happier listening to music about the world trade center?? lay of it already. People like different music and you cant be mad because of it.


Posted by tek 1967(cold army member):
i understand that u have your own opinion, and u have the right to express wut u thought about the album, but in my eyes Cold is the best band out there, their songs are something that i can relate to, and give me my insparation for my own song wrighting. i persomaly think ur rong., and that Cold kicks total ass ! because they know wut real music is!


Posted by you:
ur an idiot, these bands are the best


Posted by gypsy:
YOTS is a great album- sic is all about the listener. And to you mublackjesus: you Nazi crap-who cares what religion Fred Durst is-I don't like him much either-but you show that your words are crap-anyone who would pull someone's religious to put them down does not deserve and audience-by the way Jesus was a jew-ididot


Posted by Amber:
COLD IS THE COOLEST


Posted by Sarah eva:
You obviously dont know about life or about good writing. thsi album is amazing and so true to life. You are obviuosly part of the "record Industry" that doesn't understand the difference between generic and real art-go have someone die of cancer in your family then come back and listen to the cd again-I don't wish this on anyone but your review sucks! Prozac boy


Posted by ThirteenSpiders:
cold rocks! and the way i see it is opinions are like a** holes-everybody's got one. just because one person puts them down-doesn't mean that their fans won't keep them up and that's all the band needs to survive is their fans!


Posted by blackjesus:
I think its rediculous that you can't give a band its proper dues, simply because they were signed by Fred Durst. yes he is a jewish bastard, but Cold makes some of the most emotional music there is out now, and sounds nothing like limp bizkit. Yes, the album is more radio friendly than past cold efforts, but the depth to the music (excluding 'stupid girl') is still there.


Posted by TADS CHICK:
WHAT THE F*CK IS UP WITH ALL YOU THINKIN THIS IS A CHAT ROOM ? F*CKIN TALK ABOUT THE BAND OR SHUT THE F*CK UP!


Posted by TADS CHICK:
I THINK THE SONG "THE DAY SEATTLE DIED" IS REALLY A NIFTY SONG IN REMEBERING KURT COBAIN! HE IS STILL AND ALWAYS WILL BE ALIVE IN OUR HEARTS!


Posted by Menfis:
You dont know a sh!t about music, cold is one of the best bands ever


Posted by sandy:
i think cold is one of the best bands ever if you dont like them kiiss my a$$


Posted by hippies_420@yahoo.com:
I think Cold is awesome. This whole CD is one of the best I've ever heard!!


Posted by hmmmmm:
Cold is one of my favorite bands, but I have to admit, the reviewer is right. Although, the review does seem to change the tone towards the end, becoming more critical, just to make the review more controversial.


Posted by nnnnnnnnnnnnnnn:
Cold rocks!!! Rap music sucks, country music is not good, rock music rules and kicks a@@. Deftones kinda suck, except for their white pony album. Drowning pool wasn't great either. Cold Rocks!!!


Posted by STUPIDGIRL669:
ALL OF YOU PPL THAT ARE SH*T TALKIN ON COLD NEED TO GET A CATSCAN REAL SOON.....COLDS MUSIC IS F*CKING AMAZING!!THEY ARE MY FAVORITE BAND..AND NO MATTER HOW POPULAR OR UNPOPULAR THEY ARE I WILL STAND BY THEM TIL THE END....I WILL BUY THEIR ALBUMS TIL THE END!!! THEY INSPIRE ME TO DO MY BEST...AND MAKE ME HAPPY WHEN IM DEPRESSED! YEAR OF THE SPIDER IS MY FAVORITE CD THEY LYRICS ARE SO REAL...AND U CAN TELL THEY CAME FROM THE HEART!


Posted by DisturbedDemon_69:
Are You Daft! This Cd Is Incredible! Apperintly We Are In A Society That Can't Appreiciate Good Lyrics Or Beat! Cold Deserves Only Recognition For This Disk!


Posted by DA MAn:
i think cold sounds to much like godsmack, they offer nothing new, and the fans that like them are teenagers who dont know what real music is.


Posted by Diablo Mozart:
www.devanenet.com...go to the music page...there are samples there for you to hear...d.m.


Posted by xxx:
I agree dm. Boy girl love songs are so retarded. It'd be cool to hear your band though. I also agree with,uh ...... lol and Kimber, maybe not about creed being a good band. lol


Posted by ..........:
people have a right to an opinion about music or whatever they chose...this is about cold...i mean the band is great...why put something negative with out having a reason to back it up?....


Posted by Kimber:
Cold is one of the best bands that i have just started listening to. i think they are great. from what i can tell they speak their mind and there is nothing wrong with that. Disturbed,three doors down,creed ,staind,revis and linkin park are next in my fav. list!!


Posted by Diablo Mozart:
also...being a musician myself has given me the perspective that you have to respect any artist doing what they feel instead of what they're told...and unfortunately you can't please everybody all the time...Cold i a good example of this and I feel they are doing music straight from their hearts regardless of what the rest of the industry is doing...d.m.


Posted by Diablo Mozart:
let me preface the coming statement with the fact that my tastes run more in "classic metal" like queensryche, kiss, etc.:...to me their music is actually kind of relaxing (probably the mix)...the lyrics are really cool...singers pretty deep...very personal...unfortunately i can relate well to personal lyrics as i'm the lead singer of a metal band myself called Devane...and i HATE writing boy-girl love songs, they've been done to death...so i try to strive to write about things i know...like cold's lyrics they're not always pretty but they usually get the message across...d.m.


Posted by xxx:
Dm, no problem. lol. so what're your thoughts on cold and their music? what bands do you like?


Posted by diablo mozart:
cool...i thank you...d.m.


Posted by xxx:
yeah, dm I kinda knew that. that was my way of stopping the stupid bullsh*t


Posted by diablo mozart:
you have kept this going as long as she has...both of you need to chill out...this was supposed to be a discussion about cold, and last time i checked everyone was free to have an opinion...whether they like cold or not does not make someone stupid...insulting them for not liking cold...does...d.m.


Posted by diablo mozart:
i WAS referring to both of you...d.m.


Posted by xxx:
actually zena, I've posted more than once and use many different names. why do you care? I really don't understand that. Why do you care about Cold's record sales if you don't like them? why do you care about what Kelly's doing if you don't like him either? and to be perfectly honest,I couldn't care less about you're job. sorry. I'm really glad you're so personal with Cold that you know thier self esteem. I'm sure you're proud of yourself. I agree with dm, drop your ego and stop posting on the damn site if you don't like the band. f*ck off and find one of the many people who "know you and respect your opinions"


Posted by diablo mozart:
hmmm...can we let the personal attacks end and get back on the subject of colds music?...thanks...d.m.


Posted by Zena:
xxx:"Also, who the hell are you to pass your stupid little judgement on thier live shows." Someone who knows a SHOW isn't watching a guitar player look at his fretboard the whole set. That is what practice is for! -I'm out like Cold's self-esteem!


Posted by Zena:
xxx: It's my job to watch who is doing what. I'm a consultant (Ten+ years in the business). People who know me respect my opinions. At least I have the balls to use the same alias everytime I post. Oh, you are right about one thing; this is a waste of my time. "The artist can know all the technique in the world, but if he feels nothing, it will mean nothing." -Chen Chi


Posted by Diablo Mozart:
xxx:hmm...you insult someone and expect them not to respond?


Posted by evh fan:
i was at that live show friday night.cold had a good light show but no energy.they looked like they would've rather been anywhere else. too bad, evanesence looked like they were having a good time.


Posted by xxx:
Zena: I'm so glad that you think I'm 12 or 13. Is that what you spend all your time doing? And why the hell do you care so much about what's going on with Kelly if you hate him so much? And if you don't like Cold,either, than why do you care how many records they sold? Also, who the hell are you to pass your stupid little judgement on thier live shows. Looks like you need to grow up more than anyone.


Posted by Zena:
don't worry about that: Kelly, is that you? Please try and grow up... Anyway, he pissed-off more people this past weekend, with his "better than you" attitude. I heard some interesting stories! Never admit to his face you don't know who he is. That's quite an ego for a band that has sold a little over 300k units on it's last release... I got passes to the show two days ago (I wanted to see the headliner). I'm glad I didn't pay because Cold just stood there. What happened to putting on a "show"? [See how easy it is to post without using curse words? People MIGHT think you are older than 12-13.]


Posted by Ashley:
For all the people think that cold sucks you have no idea what music is, if you ever here the rain song you should think twice and every other song they have made, instead of all the sh*t they play today, they play what they feel and they like doing it, and even if you dont like them fu*k you!P.s Rammstein sucks!


Posted by Ashley:
I think cold is a great band, i love there unique sound and scooters voice is amazing


Posted by don't worry about that:
Who ever the f*ck this Zena bitch is, you need to shut your damn mouth. Just like this a**hole, Dan Grote, you too, are an absolute idiot. You obviously know nothing about Cold and that's your fault that you're such a dumba**. And if you have some thing else to post, you go write a poetry book.


Posted by Diablo Mozart:
well...i don't think Cold is a bad band by any means...they don't trash talk and just try to do the best music they can...some people like it...some people don't...world would be boring if we all liked the same music...the thing that gets me is all these people calling other people names and throwing insults around...it doesn't show much respect for other's opinions...d.m.


Posted by +:
i think rammstein is a way better band than cold or anything els out there ,,,whut....


Posted by Diablo Mozart:
Well...it doesn't really matter what you think...Now does it?...Along with Ehmke and MEtal boy you have once again proved me right...and you are embarrassing the band Cold by hurling your petty comments...Please try and grow up...d.m.


Posted by coldpark_48:
cold is freaking awesome!!! i think you are smoking crack!


Posted by Zena:
Diablo Mozart- I think Ehmke and MEtal boy proved your point!


Posted by Ehmke:
When My Dad Deid I Listened To Cold's Music And I Got Through All of My Problem's Because Cold's Music is very good and it help's with problem's and Cold Ain't a band That follow's other bands!! I don't know alot of bands that can help you with yur problems!! So That's Pretty Cool!! Well I'm Out And If Anyone Has Msn Messenger And If You Want to Talk My Addy Is hed_pe_13@hotmail.com !!! add ME


Posted by Ehmke:
I Think Cold Is The Best Da/\/\n Band So Frick Everyone That Don't Like Them!! Cuz You Suck!


Posted by MEtal boy:
Cold Ruls and U Suck!!! stupid Moron Kiss all Cold Fans A$$


Posted by Diablo Mozart:
Personally I thimk it's kinda funny that almost all of the Cold fans here have resorted to petty name-calling...This man is a reviewer...his job is to give his opinion on music...if you don't like it that's fine...but to call him names is strictly 2nd-grade...d.m.


Posted by DevaneNation:
We are coming for all of the other bands who a happy to get by with second rate attempts at writing songs and performing shows... There will be no mercy for the weak... The Crimson Rain Comes... www.DevaneNet.com


Posted by Zena:
Way to go Dan! Cold is as dull as an ice cube. I wanted them to make lots of money, but it won't happen. I admit, I am biased. I know the mother of Kelly's (aka "Kelly Quick" LOL) daughter. It's a shame; I don't think he's seen her in over 7 years. I don't think he's given her one dime for bills. But that doesn't change the fact Cold is as innovative as a xerox machine. If the lyrics are that good, Scooter should dump the band and write a poetry book.


Posted by cold fan:
I think that cold is one of the best bands in the world! They rule your craxy if you dont like them and I.C.P.


Posted by m:
I think this review sucks. You just don't get what the songs are about. Do you know what Cure My Tragedy is even about? Didn't think so. You don't get it. Cold's music helps a lot of people get through some tough times that you wouldn't understand, because I don't think you know what you are talking about


Posted by alex (chino):
to the reviewer your review sucks if your gonna give a bad review it should be one that goes into details about why that particular band sucks. you class cold like its one of those bands that just follow everybody else and contradict themselves in their music. and your rant about stupid girl if you knew anything about record labels you would know that geffen picked stupid girl to be the single not cold. if your gonna give a bad review. you should go into details about the intstrumentals and lyrics. obviously something you didnt do. you just wrote one of the lyrics and basically said that line sucks and put that along with every other song on the cd. when i read the review i didnt see one thing about intstrumentals. your review sucks plain and simple to summarize my point. if your going to give a bad review about a band go into specifics (something you did not do) another thing if you really want your reviews to be plausable please lay off the played out similes like day old doughnuts. this is not a credible review and i do not understand how you have a job reviewing peoples music


Posted by Justin:
THE REVIEWER SUX on this one he dosent know what hes talken about,your an awfull reviewer , why dont you study more about the band. your a f*cking a$$ hole cold kicks a$$, your review dident make any sens at all why dont you post something that makes sens


Posted by Myself:
?? shut the f**k up, they are facts. So just deal with it you ignorant piece of s**t.


Posted by steph:
wow! scooter2 matt and ryan know whta there talking about cuz I don't care whtacha say COLD IS AWSOME!!!!


Posted by steph:
What the hell people your all so stupid Cold is great there song stupid girl is wonderful and its so HOTT!!! I love it. as for the other ones who don't your all fags who dont even know what to judge music on u hear one song uu dont like and think the band and all there songs are gay some songs arent that great but its for sure the Cold, stupid girl is off the hook awsome! Now whatchu gott say bout that haters huh huh? w/e im out *****cold rocks so does stupid girl*****


Posted by meeee:
u suck man!cold rule!


Posted by XXX:
Dan Grote,You a f*cking loser a**hole who needs to get laid and most definately, find a new job. You suck at writing reviews if you can't notice a good band when you see one. Songs like Cure My Tragedy are really f*cking personal and hard and who the f*ck are you to pass your little two f*cking cents and talk about them? Who the f*ck do you think you are? Read what people are saying about your review a**hole. You're practially on your own. If you knew anything, you'd listen to the lyrics and the meanings behind them and try to understand them instead of bashing the single off of their JUNIOR album, not SOPHOMORE dumba**. You think your sh*ty a** review is going to make people suddenly dislike Cold? you deada** wrong because all of Cold's fans are deticated and love their music. Cold had saved lives just doing what they love. Do you do any sh*t like that? No, all you do is write sh*ty reviews for amazing bands. If I ever see you in the street,I'm going to kick the living sh*t out of you. That's a promise.


Posted by Kitty:
I think this entire review is sh*t. I can't believe the things people are sasynig about Cold. How could anyone think this way? Cold is an amazing band who helps their fans through some of the toughest times of thier lives. If not for them alot of people would be f*cing dead by now. And actually this is Cold's third album. You can kiss my ass with all stupid bullsh*t about how much Cold sucks cuz you have no f*cking idea what you're talking about. By the way, Cold has an Army which I'm on and you better not let me find out who the hell you are.


Posted by xxxcoldxxx:
What the f*ck is up with this dam article? Did you even listen to the cd or are you one of those a**holes who just bash new bands that are worth some thing? You obviously don't understand that lyrics and no nothing about how their music effects people. you can't believe how angry I was when I read your sh*tty a** review. You probably one of those lame a** people who are all into old played out metal and aren't willing to listen to music that isn't a sh*tload of crazy a** guitar effects and screaming about sex and drugs and b*tchs. Don't waste your time if all you're going to do is write bad reviews for good bands.


Posted by ??:
to "myself" you stated opinions and if you think they are "facts" then you are the one that is an idiot.


Posted by jessi:
O.k.... more. Cold's lyrics are soulful. Do people have an issue with soulfulness? Sure they do. We live in a world lacking in genuiness and anything resembling truth or spirit is a threat. Listen. Learn. Their fans are die hards. See all the responses below. I can.have listened to their cd's (all 3) over and over again without getting burned out. How many bands can produce music that has that effect. As far as comparing them to the other bands ... think your audio senses are confused ... might want to see a doctor about that.


Posted by jessi:
Cold ROCKS!


Posted by Ugivemenothing:
...Well it is one of my favourite albums at the moment and I don't see how you can give it a 2.5 stars??All of their albums are excellent !!


Posted by Myself:
Dan Grote, you have no intelligence whatsoever. Why you are allowed to write reviews is beyond me, but I guess if they let you do it, then I guess there's hope for everyone. To all the idiots who said this cd/Cold sucks, you don't know what good music is, so just keep your ignorant thoughts to yourselves. I just stated the facts here, so if anyone whines about it, you only prove my point further.


Posted by nnnnnnnnnnnn:
Ilike the band Cold and I think their latest album was the best. The guitars are awesome. And I love the song Stupid Girl. I have all 3 of Cold's albums and they ROCK!


Posted by _letmebleed_:
don't ever pick a fight with Cold, they got their own army, manyof whom would b willing to die to protect the five people that mean so much to us all. Cold f*ckin saved my life on many occasions, they've always been there for me when ive been near suicide. YoTS is written about Scooter's life and the people that have affected him and are close to him, his sister gettin cancer for example, or Sad Happy. how can you possible be so cold hearted about someone who has the guts to show his REAL feelings about wots goin on in his life to his fans? he thinks of us fans as part of his family, and we feel the same about him and the rest of the band. no other band i can think of has lyrics just as personal that somehow manage to say exactly what youve been tryin to for months without success. do some research before u review them a$$h0le, listen to their whole album, not the f*cking single gettin airplay. f*cking shallow looser, people like you don't deserve life, and if i ever find out who you are and meet you in the street, run, i promise it won't be pretty.


Posted by _sickofman11_:
excellent response from the Cold Army, im proud to be a fellow soldier :) as for the reviewer, i hope u and your family die a slow painful death a$$hole, dnt piss on the spider, itll come right bak and bite you on the ass


Posted by ShadowMercenary:
Jesus With A Laser Gun, I truly hope you keep in mind what you've said when one of your family members is diagnosed with a disease and dies... it will happen eventually, it does to everyone. I can't think of the last time I've seen something so ignorant and heartless.


Posted by ShadowMercenary:
Well, I'm gonna make an attempt at a remotely intelligent reply... In all honesty, your review of the band is pretty pathetic. You obviously haven't done your research if you didn't know how many CD's Cold had out. You also compared the band's sound to others that sound little-to-nothing like Cold. I would be truly interested in hearing what bands you listen to and enjoy, because unlike Cold, I'm sure I could name 5 bands that sound just like anything you listen to. I really don't appreciate your uneducated review of the band. The only thing you may have gotten right at all is your complaint about Stupid Girl, but even there... Rivers only assisted Scooter in writing the lyrics. The instrumentation and some of the lyrics (second verse, I think) are Cold's very own... nor was Stupid Girl Cold's choice for the first single. To sum up what I'm trying to say, I really wish you would think before you start on a misguided nu-metal bash fest targeting one of the few truly original (and not all that nu-metal sounding, either!) bands left in rock music!


Posted by StarlitDreamer:
You know what...you are allowed your opinion...and so am I...and your opinion sucks...I have been a Cold fan for a few years now...and while this may not be their best album (13 Ways to Bleed on Stage is)...it's still a hell of a lot better than some of the sh!t that's out there today...and next time you write a sh!tty a$$ review...get all ur facts straight...when you fu*k up it looks really stupid...and who gives a fu*k if "The band makes the same cookie-cutter woe-is-me music that has suffocated modern rock radio since 1998" they have been around a lot fu*king longer than 1998 thank you very much...so here's my foot in ur a$$ and ur foot in ur mouth...have a nice day b!tch...


Posted by HybriD:
yeah.. what everyone here said is TOTALY RIGHT.. i just wana add 1 more thing... Cold are NOT nu-metal. :)


Posted by true fan:
Maybe I'm the only one who was curious enough to read a couple of the other people's thoughts, but if I"m not mistaken it seems that you are all alone. Everyone but YOU seems to think that cold is the sh*t. Regardless if this was their 1st or 50th album. Year of the Spider is a great album. So it isn't all happy and cheery like your "i fuc#ed 30 hoes last night and then ate some fried chicken while smokin some endo" music. Even if cold sang about nothing but happy things you would bash them for rubbing in how great a life they lead and how it's not fair that yours sucks.And obviously it must. Because I think there is a couple dozen people on here alone who think you're the dumbest sh*thead on the planet. So do yourself a favor, get a job at mcdonalds and let the voice of the true fans be heard! \m/ cold rocks!


Posted by true fan:
Maybe I'm the only one who was curious enough to read a couple of the other people's thoughts, but if I"m not mistaken it seems that you are all alone. Everyone but YOU seems to think that cold is the sh*t. Regardless if this was their 1st or 50th album. Year of the Spider is a great album. So it isn't all happy and cheery like your "i fuc#ed 30 hoes last night and then ate some fried chicken while smokin some endo" music. Even if cold sang about nothing but happy things you would bash them for rubbing in how great a life they lead and how it's not fair that yours sucks.And obviously it must. Because I think there is a couple dozen people on here alone who think you're the dumbest sh*thead on the planet. So do yourself a favor, get a job at mcdonalds and let the voice of the true fans be heard! \m/ cold rocks!


Posted by nica:
i loved the cd !!!! it helped me through a lot a lot of crap in my life. thank you cold!


Posted by "Spydder the Great:
i think Cold's a good band. there is better out there, yes, but that doesn't mean you have to point out just the bad aspects of the band. a lot of bands DO sound a lot alike nowadays, i agree. but they're all good in some way. they're all just trying to live a common dream and tell people how they feel through their music. if you want a good band, though, listen to Three Days Grace. Cold still rocks though.


Posted by HateMe:
You're fuc*king gay, i dont know who you are, but if you're fuc*king gay. COLD is good band, and If those other bands were worth 2 sh*ts and a FU*K, they might be famous that u preach about..but guess what.. THEY'RE NOT. and who is?? COLD. If they wanted YOU'RE bullsh*t opinons, im sure they would take that big co*k out of your mouth and ask for it. Besides.. what do they need your bullsh*t for? Their the ones making money, and living the life.. and you;re the one sitting on your comp all day making bullsht 'reviews' like a poser critc or something. You porbably listen to Good Charlotte, and Avri Lavigne.. and i dont think they could give a fu*k less if people dont like them. So get a fu*king life , and get laid or SOMETHING. Fuc*ing di*k head.


Posted by sonny:
you are moron. i hope you have another job besides writing stupid-ass f*cking crappy reviews of good cds... dumbass.


Posted by The Outsider:
oh by the way jacka$$, this is Cold's 3rd CD, not their sophmore album. Since you don't pay attention to anything not on the radio, you wouldn't have known that this lesser publicized cd was available. And while this cd may not be their best, don't tell me they shouldn't be here, when there are actually NO bands that sound like cold, and a billion cookie cutter good charlotte garbage. Papa roach and Korn also do not sound like cold in any fashion. I didn't think people who were tone deap were allowed to review music. Cold is smart band and just sing about what they know regardless of whats popular. Their music is their form of bleeding and release. Sorry they couldn't package their emotions in more happy sounding songs for you, I'm sure they'll try next time. You chuck- OUT


Posted by The Unearthed Apparatus:
This is def. Cold's worst album...for all those who want to hear some truly depressing music which isnt nu metal, listen to Cold's self titled debut. Its dark, depressing, yet something different. I really wish they played more of it live.


Posted by shut down:
timmybtwisted man your f**kin awsome oh dan i found a f**k buddy for you theolsentwintakeover there you go sit on his cock and rotate a**hole. thank you


Posted by shut down:
hey dan your queer, cold is one of the best bands ever. so you can sit on a cock and rotate. remember your queer and cold is awsome. thank you


Posted by tidal:
just wanted to ask a question, have u even f*cking seen socialburn live? can you honestly compare their sound to cold when you've probably never even seen them in concert? i thought not... moron


Posted by babies:
I love Dan, ok that's all.


Posted by herman:
Of course, when it comes time to actually push the album on an unsuspecting public, every band needs a quasi-distinguishing single. And so when said time came for Cold, the band turned not to Scooter’s own songwriting prowess but instead to Rivers Cuomo, the contemporary bastard child of Brian Wilson and Elvis Costello. That was funny. Also, "Year of the Spider" isn't Cold's sophomore release. It's their third. That would make them ineligible for the sophomore slump excuse.


Posted by theolsentwintakeover:
i think cold sucks, good review, who cares what album it is they all suck. it took them 15 years to get this far. great. you would think by now they can play something a bit better than this. its not about being catchy, its about them selling to the people because they know that you cant survive after too long without a job. cold sucks, get over it.


Posted by God:
What do you care, Hobo, you're dumber than the both of them.


Posted by Hobo:
I don't know who's dumber. Dan Goatboy or Jesus with a lasergun up his ass.


Posted by Beans:
"True, it would be a change of pace if more of today's bands wrote songs containing positive, inspiring lyrics, but as things stand right now, such is not the case." Well, one band's repertoire contains positive lyrics, but they're bashed to high heaven for sounding slightly like another band and happening to be more popular.


Posted by timmybtwisted:
Alright you're writing a review of a band you know nothing about. This is thier Junior effort not sophmore. Word from the wise don't comment on a band if you don't have your facts strait, God I hope they don't pay you to write these reviews. Also Year of the spider is an excellent CD. The best CD I've heard this year thus far. Cold does melodic music better then any band out there and they've managed to make there own style. I don't hear any cookie cutting already been done before songs in there what so ever. If anything, bands that sound like Cold copied Cold becasue they've been around quite some time as Cold and even earlier as Grundig. One thing is clear, this isn't your type of music, if you don't like this style of Rock get off your damn soap box and let the fans find out for themselves. As for Cuomo, it's a known fact that he is a huge fan of Cold's music and a friend of the band. To say that he was doing fred Durst a favor is not only a slap in the face to Cold and Cuomo, but also to fans of both bands. We can only hope bands like Cold continue to press on and supply much needed quality music. As for no talent ass rockets like yourself why couldn't the interent bubble bust find this ass clown looking for a job?


Posted by Jesus with a laser gun:
Ok ok, we all get it, it's their third album. That doesn't mean they don't suck balls though. Why does every moron on this board assume that if someone doesn't like the extremely boring sounds of Cold that all they like is rap? And sh*tty rap at that. There is far better hip hop out there than 50 Cent and commercial garbage like that. And there is FAR better rock music being produced today than Cold. The lyrics to stupid girl are so banal, they could have been written by any of their moron fans. I think God was trying to aim his cancer gun at the untalented ass of the lead singer, but kept missing and hit his sister and girlfriend instead. We don't need any more bands like this, they contribute nothing new. I notice the album has a song called The Day Seattle Died. Since Cold can't follow in Nirvana's footsteps of producing actual good music, maybe they'll do us all a favour and grab some shotguns.


Posted by Nate M.:
First of all, yes; YOTS is indeed Cold's third album, Mr. Reviewer, so before you publish any reviews, make sure you have your facts straight. Second, if you truly believe, in your heart of hearts, that Cold is "just another whiny cookie-cutter nό-metal band", think again. The guys in Cold have been around for over 15 years, a fact that is incomprehensible by many of today's music fans. They were not discovered by a major label, however, until '97, a year before they released their powerful, emotive self-titled debut. As far as "Stupid Girl" is concerned, Rivers Cuomo of Weezer did NOT write the damn song. It worked out like this: (Cold frontman) Scooter Ward had written something that sounded like a Weezer riff, but going into the studio, he was having trouble writing the verses to the song, so he and his longtime friend Cuomo collaborated on the effort. And as far as your comments regarding the lyrical content of YOTS goes, it all goes back to what another one of the responses to your absolutely ridiculous, one-sided review: Over half of today's music contains some degree of negative lyrical content. Not every band out there wants to write "she loves you, yeah yeah yeah" happy-pop Beatles-style lyrics, in case that fact has not yet dawned on you. True, it would be a change of pace if more of today's bands wrote songs containing positive, inspiring lyrics, but as things stand right now, such is not the case. And that, sir, is simply one thing that you're just going to have to accept and get on with your life; as opposed to running around blowing smoke out of your ass and whining about how bleak-sounding today's music is. For f*ck's sake, it's MUSIC, not classical literature or anything else of that ilk. So to sum up, get over yourself, and get a life outside of the library.


Posted by Hobo:
Cold + Staind + Chevelle = boring


Posted by xjustin:
I don't know why everyone hates STUPID GIRL so much, its actually a pretty good song. I mean, not every song a band does has to be a technical masterpiece. And it may not be as lyrically meaningful as the majority of the other songs, but it does slightly elevate the overall sad mood of the album. I do agree with the rest of you, the reviewers opinion was totally biased and unfitting. Go listen to some f(u)ckin glam/hair metal if you can't deal with real world issues.


Posted by ?:
ok well i try to tell you people what i think but every time i do it gets rejected so, how nice can i say this, hey lame guy who knows nothing go lick a pair of hairy balls. i think that works pretty nice. i could ramble on like all these other fools but i think that will do very well so have a nice day. WAR COLD KICKS ASS OUT!


Posted by creedpunk:
Dude you just need to shut up Danny Goat groper. Cold is very good band and has been around since before 97, not 98 when you clam this s*%# came around. You really do need to research bands before you write about them and actually listen to the cd at least 5 times before you can make an opinion. If you bothered to watch the DVD that came with it you would know that one of the songs is about an abused girl he met at a concert and HER story not his. And I am bt refering to stupid girl, cause all your dumb a*# prolly got out og that was "girl". Go to your indy music hole you came from of you dont like contemperary mainstream rock.


Posted by FaLLtoObscurity:
I really hope that you realized what an unbelievable fool you've made yourself out as. I completely agree with TiredofLaziness, this albumn deals with BOTH Scooter's girlfriend AND sister being diagnosed with cancer, and the struggle he is going through. Well, don't you feel like a complete and total idiot now? And, if you don't, then feel free to read every single other review on here, that would also support that you are a complete and total moron. Frankly, you don't enjoy this type of music (Staind, Social Burn, Cinder...etc), so why the hell are you reviewing in?? Maybe you would enjoy some 50 cent, or Ashanti, because obviously music containing REAL emotion and pain isn't cutting it for you! If you prefer to listen to the escapades of "hoes, boos, and bitches" than be my guest, but get the hell of this website and stop trashing GOOD music. Every ounce of respect I previously felt toward this website, has completely vanished, and I promise I will spread it's evident lack of tact and it's incompetency. I am a huge Cold fan and love just about everything they have come out with. So have some respect for Scooter, his family, and the entire band. But then again, who would expect any from someone who doesn't deserve any themselves. And the only other thing I have to say, is that I would THOROUGHLY enjoy to see a cookie-cutter shoved up your ass!!!


Posted by Gringo The Grey:
I personally don't like Cold, and find Stupid Girl overly annoying, however I agree with Better Than you. People who review things get too caught up in their own "power" to really say what the item is, if you don't like it, then you say that you should instead buy a gun and shoot yourself in the foot for an hour instead of listening to this CD, or playing this game. Don't trash a band for getting a career, it isn't any record exec or guy in a suit to be blamed, trends come and go, always have always will, don't hate the band for just trying. They are the ones out there trying to do something with their lives, something they want. Hell, we should all be so lucky.


Posted by Better Then You:
First off: Take some grammar lessons--YOU NEED IT! Second: If you don't like Cold then listen to some rap, that will 180 your opinion. And last of all: Quit being a pus*y; Cold may sing about gloomy bullsh*t going on in there lives but that's 1/2 of rock and all other types of music. So quit being an idiot, no one gives a damn about your worthless (AND IT IS THAT) opinions--You're just some washed up musition who never made it so you're full of spite towards others who have a greater chance of making it into the mainstream views of music! COLD KICK A*s, YOU DON'T!


Posted by quiet one:
i usually dont comment on anything like this, but i really have to this time. When i read a review that states a certain cd is someone's sophomore cd, and it's really their third, I just cant believe that i have trusted this sites and it's reviews for so long. Well, im done trusting anything you guys say when you cant even get somethingas simple as how many cds a band has released correct. I think everyone agrees with me that cold is great, they may not be perfect, but they don't have a cookie-cutter sound, so forget this site, i can write more insightful reviews than this crap.


Posted by Stinky:
Tru dat!


Posted by cameron:
whoever made this article is a 100% FU@ING retard. cold has an awesome sound. they arent your usual rock band that sells out just so they become millionaires.they are staying underground UNLIKE STAIND.oh, and by the way, year of the spider isnt their 2nd album its their 3rd you FU@KIN IDIOT. I dont know why the hell you would speak of cold in such a matter as if they have been around for 20 years and are just desperate for some cash like metallica by just releasing an album with no thought. Cold is an especially talented band and you should burn in hell for this article \m/ rock on cold \m/


Posted by TiredofLaziness:
I'm tired of seeing reviewers everywhere calling Cold a "Cookie-cutter band". If you think their music is cliched, go ahead and say so. It merely proves that you know nothing about the origins of these songs. The reviewer MOCKS "Cure My Tragedy (A Letter to God)", which is actually a song about him dealing with the pain of watching his sister die of cancer. The lyrics are genuine - if you actually do a little research before you do a review (something that should be a prerequisite, don't you think?), the review might sound a little less like a cookie-cutter itself.


Posted by Englishman (formerly the lucky...):
Cold rule, Scooter is amazingly talented. You have to be an open minded person to appreciate colds music!ps. the album ends with 'gone away'(hidden track) so you got that wrong....as well as the review.....'You silly freak you super fVck'


Posted by Englishman (formerly the lucky...):
Cold rule, Scooter is amazingly talented. You have to be an open minded person to appreciate colds music!ps. the album ends with 'gone away' so you got that wrong....as well as the review.....'You silly freak you super fVck'


Posted by Johnny Boy:
God, what is wrong with this reveiwer? Cold kicks some major wink wink.


Posted by burnmonkey:
after listening to this album thouroughly many times i can say that it is definetely on par with 13 ways. Whoever wrote this review really outta be shot, because he don't know what good music is.


Posted by Jay:
Who in the hell writes the reviews on the bands? Whoever it is,is a idot. Cold is so musically talented and the Music on Year of the Spider Shows it in many ways. How can you not like the guitar work or the lyrics? Scooter just wrote about what is in his heart. that is not Considered whining. Let me write the Reviews. I will keep it real. I give Cold 4stars. And the Writers of this site 0.....Well one for trying..


Posted by EycHaus:
I'm going to agree with this guy on one accord: "Stupid Girl" = crap. However, there was the Self Titled, then 13 Ways, and THEN Year of The Spider. Layman's terms: 3 albums. As far as "Woe is Me," I don't know if I would call songs like "Bleed," "End of the World," or "Confession" (all off 13 ways) to be Woe is Me. Nor would I consider the same of "Give" off the self-titled. Have I heard YOTS? No, because of Stupid Girl.


Posted by mark:
who ever wrote this f*cking article is a dumb@$$ first off this is cold third ablum without counting their EP's and cold's songs are very emotional they've helped me through tough times and some of their songs are depressing most still very emotional i've cried to many of their songs to say just how good they are..and also Scoot Ward already had the chorus for Stupid Girl he only got the Verus from Cuomo so f*ck you man this music industry is dieing bands are selling out pop and rap bands have meaningless songs most about smoking w*ed and ice...or hoes f*cking retarded music nothing pure and meaningful if pres Bush said cold was sh*t i'd say f*ck him to his face so don't think i won't tell you the f*ckingsame. mark_619_ward@yahoo.com


Posted by scooter2:
dude cold is one of the most influential band s around today they write about things that r dear to them and they have the descency to write them into the most beatiful songs ver written.


Posted by Matt:
ok this review is crap. thats all i really gotta say. get the facts straight. this is cold's 3RD album. not sophomore. and you have to realize "cure my tragedy" isnt a 'pain well' song. its for his sister that's dying of cancer. know what scoot's been through then right ur review. also LISTEN to the cd more than once. and yeah the only think i can agree with you on this is "stupid girl" and whatever u said about it...


Posted by Ryan:
I think Cold had an excellent follow up to 13 Ways to Bleed on Stage. The reason some people don't like YOTS is because it's not AMAZING (compared to 13) but it's still very well done. I personally don't feel Cold will ever top 13 ways.. but they'll always have amazing music worth the $18 or so that a CD costs. My review is, go buy this CD you'll be very happy with the results.


Posted by Beans:
Wow, Scott Slapp's crappy reviews have rubbed off on someone else.



 
 


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