DeGarmo, now a private jet pilot, didn't want to push her into an interest in music - but when she was 15 she heard him playing an acoustic guitar and told him, "I think I've got something for that." He tells Billboard: "I'd just been waiting years for that."

He says of The Rue: "There's not a bunch of window dressing and high-production values - but it's heavy on an emotional connection and it has a directness to it. I'm really proud."