Posted by 3rika: Travis Meeks Rawks Days of The New Rulz!!!
Posted by
Stone: You know, disposable pop doesnt anger
me too much, but when it's overplayed to hell, its just not fair. I'm not
a fan of this music, but i believe it does deserve its place like any other
form of music. Why cant MTV play more underground cult bands like Sonic
Youth and The Pixies? I'm not sure. But i will tell you one thing- if MTV
did play them, they would play them so much they wouldnt be cool anymore.
So let MTV have its pop, hip-hop $hit, and let us rockers keep rock alive
by NOT letting on MTV, because MTV makes everything vain, impure, bad.
God bless Rock and Roll!
Posted by
jake: Nowaday´s mainstream bands suck
! They aren´t like Alice In Chains , Pearl Jam , Stevie Ray Vaughan
& Double Trouble , Skid Row and those very good bands that brought
something new to music in general ! Look at SRV ! He was a Blues Guitarrist
in the middle of Hard Rock/Grunge era and HE ROCKED ! Fabulous ! 2002 awards
sucked ! Lots of stupid bands that mix rock with rap and teen pop , boy
bands and slut-f*cker-rappers showing girls shaking their butts ! C´mon
...
Posted by
5150guy: I agree with everything you said, the
1992 awards contained far more memorable artists and performances.The nly
thing you got wrong is that the fist fight between Bret Michaels and CC
Deville was at the '91 show, not '92. oh well. Keep up the good work!
Posted by
BassBastard: A month ago I downloaded the 3 greatest
MTV video award performances ever Give it Away-RHCP Lithium-Nirvana Jeremy-Pearl
Jam All at the 92 awards!! Thats all of the show i wanted to see-no scripted
presenter bullsh*t. Aside from that, I have come to feel the same way you
do about the art that is music. So much so that I have felt so different
from others to a point that i tried to kill myself. Your article and this
website in general is very comforting. Aside from the sh*t talk the message
board contains but thats life!
Posted by
MTV and Radio Suck: Mr. Huh, I don't think Matchbox 20 is
that bad...they're better than most of the stuff that's played on the radio,
anyway. At least their music is melodic and I can listen to it without
wanting to take a hammer to my radio.
Posted by
MTV and Radio Suck: Mello Yello, I wasn't aware that I implied
that you were on medication because of your positive attitude. It was more
your sheep-like mentality and your narrowminded perspective on music that
clued me in. I don't know what you mean when you refer to "cross-overs",
but please enlighten me as to which mainstream crap..er uh I mean music
you are thinking of, and I will try to be open-minded in my response.
Posted by
Mr. huh? saying, "My Generation Sucks!": I don't give them credit for that. And
in regards to Matchbox 20, listen to the songs "Shame" and "Busted" at
least.
Posted by
They call me Mello Yellow, Quite Rightly: . .to respond to a post criticizing my
own; A) Not all positive attitudes come from medication (which you imply
to be needed), B) Not everything today is "bland, vanilla, dumbed down
pop music and dumbed down grunge", and C) I haven't claimed everlasting
love for every song on the radio. I agree a lot of mainstream rock bands
are repetitive in lyrics and sounds. Rough guitar screeching and They-Beat-Me-In-High-School
tales of woe. I'm just pointing out that there a lot of crossovers, and
that a lot of these posts I've read bitch about how that must equal crap.
Don't deny about that being implied, stated, and hinted at. It has. Be
ready for more crossovers, because that's never going to go away. Just
like Elvis invinted the Heartthrob Hipgrind, and then look how that's exploded.
If you dislike MTV and the radio, don't listen or watch it. I like MTV.
Not because of TRL and the hip-hop music videos. . .but because of their
reality series of super-trendy, argumentative 20-somethings stuck in a
house/bus in the middle of a new city. You gotta give them credit for atleast
having something that completely ridiculous.
Posted by
Mr. huh? saying, "My Generation Sucks!": Actually my heroes in music are Travis
Meeks, Bob Dylan, Jimmy Page, and Kurt Cobain. It's true that Matchbox
20 has influences in traditional rock acts such as The BEatles and Tom
Petty & The Heartbreakers. However, I can still spot their own sound.
Honestly, the musicians know how to play their instruments and can come
up with some good riffs and such. Rob Thomas talks about many of the same
things that teen pop stars talk about except that he actually goes in depth.
He describes setting, scenes, times, moods, thoughts of the characters,
etc. In an age of blatant grunge knockoffs (Creed, Puddle of Mudd, etc.)
and pseudo-angry nu-metal bands (Slipknot) I'm actually quite relieved
by Matchbox 20.
Posted by
southofheaven: shutup nothing.
Posted by
Nothing: I didn't really decide to read all the
comments, just see this whole "My music is better than yours" developing.
Here's what I love "The Harder The Better". That's a load right there.
First of all, it's opinion. But come on, Six Feet Under better than Pink
Floyd (Considerably light, no?). Never. The fact is, Hard/Soft doesn't
make music good. God forbid, it's the MUSIC that makes it good, not the
type. I'm really to tired to go any further, but you get the idea, right?
Posted by
MTV and Radio Suck: Ha ha...Rob Thomas, another contrived,
"passionate" pop singer. He's one of those who always seems like he's overwrought,
but you can never really feel any true emotion emanating from him.
Posted by
Bufo: The Hives were much better than The Vines.
Anyways the two were the best show in MVA in years.
Posted by
you will obey me.(rambling, sorry.): 1. i like metal...real metal, like sabbath,
i don't even listen to slipknot. 2. i do listen to other kinds of music,
i'd harldly call bob dylan, led zepplin, or pink floyd "head banging" music...hmmm
nice term...definitely not what i'd use to descibe myself, ha. i don't
care for classical music, but i never disputed the fact that there is extreme
talent there. i DONT however, think matchbox 20, and similar bands are
that talented. i think they are cheap knockoffs of real musicians. and
me shallow minded?...ya good call. i listen to everything from pantera
to bob dylan to john coltrane to the cure to lynyrd skynyrd. although half
of those artists i wouldn't admit to listening to of course :) Now that
definitely sounds like a narrow range of musical taste to me. f*ck off.
i say listen to anything with soul. matchbox 20 has no soul, i can't feel
any emotion when i listen to the music, so i don't listen to it. and don't
f*cking lecture me on passion, you know how i tell a good song? when you
hear it for the first time it sends chills up your spine. that is a good
song. hendrix's guitar playing can do that. rob thomas' music can not do
that for me. if you can get something out of rob's lyrics fine, listen
to them, they're NOT MY THING. but don't stereotype me because i call what
you listen to watered down. in my opinion it is. it's only an opinion.
p.s. who's YOUR hero man, tipper f*cking gore?
Posted by
Mr. huh? saying, "My Generation Sucks!": "you will obey me" you obviously don't
know much about the nature of music. It's all about creative expression.
Passion in music doesn't come from loudness or softness. There is such
a thing as "too soft" to the point where it's muzak, but there is such
a thing as "too hard" to the point where it's just incomprehensible noise.
The whole "the harder the better" argument is used by nothing more than
shallow-minded head-bangers. Just because you don't like it much doesn't
mean that it's watered-down crap. Would you call Joni Mitchell watered-down.
Or what about classical music. There's a lot of mellow classical music.
Would you call people like Mozart or Beethoven hacks. I'm sure that you're
heroes in Slipknot told you that hard and good go together in music, but
they're wrong.
Posted by
you will obey me.: sorry if i gave the wrong impression,
but i do listen to a lot of new music also. i'm just kind of into old stuff
now, my tastes seem to go in cycles. you're right though, there is a lot
of good new stuff out there, but still can't forget the classics, not only
are they great music, they are the framework on which new music of today
was built. oh ya and my name(original don't you think?)...well my therapist
tells me i have a god complex. i tend to view my self as the only hope
for the saviour of mankind...now there's a scary thought.
Posted by
MTV and Radio Suck: Mr. Huh, as much as I disagree with your
taste in music, I think you made a really good point about the corporations
hyping this type of music based on demographics. I participated in a radio
survey in my area a couple of years ago, and indicated that I wanted to
hear real alternative music, which by that time, had all but become extinct,
and now has completely disappeared off the airwaves. I attribute this to
large, soulless corporations and their damn surveys which are for the most
part filled out by a bunch of soccer moms and teenage girls, and now look
at what we are stuck with. By the way, "you will obey me", (where'd you
come up with that name anyway?) you need to move into the 21st century
and try to expose yourself to some modern music. There's lots of good stuff
there - it's just not as easy to find as it used to be.
Posted by
you will obey me.: what the f*ck? Mr huh- ya man, i'm sure
your ugly a$$ girlfriend tells you there is nothing wrong with soft. but
listen you limp d*cked b*tch, the harder the better. shove the matchbox
20 and sarah mchlachlan, and whatever the f*ck other "soft" music you listen
to up your ass. listen to marley, led zepplin, or pink floyd if you want
to relax.
Posted by
VampireRyan: About this year's VMAs: If you're a rapper
and you call yourself a gangsta, then why the hell do you sing with Justin
Timberlake?! you say you're a playa, but you're singing with a member of
OuttaSync! Whuzzupwitdat?!
Posted by
Mr. huh? saying, "My Generation Sucks!": There's nothing wrong with "soft" and
"mellow". I happen to like Matchbox 20, who are a good pop-rock band with
some really good lyrics and riffs. Sarah McChlachlan makes for some relaxing
music at times as well. Watered-down refers to the shallowness of the inspiration
and intelligence in music. Like the pop songs of the early 50's which were
mostly love songs, but with no real passion in them. Anyone ever hear of
the song, "How Much is That Doggy in the Window"? Gah! The music industry
should get a clue and stop hyping up bands based upon demographics. Let
the music speak for itself. Demographics and hype don't work and are really
bad for business in the long run, because as Bob Marley said it best, "You
can fool some of the people some of the time, but you can't fool all of
the people all the times."
Posted by
you will obey me.: well f*ck me, i must agree.
Posted by
MTV and Radio Suck: Hey Mello Yellow, get off the Prozac.
The music industry is dying precisely because it is trying to force-feed
us bland, vanilla, dumbed down pop music and dumbed down grunge(or as you
say, "singular genre of music"). I do not think a lot of us have a distaste
for "music today". We have a distaste for the crap that is passed off as
music today and is the only stuff we hear on the radio or MTV. I find it
surprising that you don't like country because it's "too repeditive" when,
in my opinion, the mainstream rock bands played on the radio are repetitive
to the extreme in their lyrics and in their sounds.
Posted by
They call me Mello Yellow, Quite Rightly: Music today = new music, yes? It seems
alot of you have a distaste for "music today". The old music still exists.
I personally love all music genres(with the exception of country, I find
the themes too repeditive), and even enjoy what you call "watered down".
So today's mainstream rock bands are a little soft. So what? Do we need
everything to be pure and hardcore and so extremely precise to it's genre?
No we don't. That's what the "underground" is fore. I agree that the quality
of music seems to decline in ratio to it's trueness to whatever genre it
claims to be. America is a meltin' pot folks, and soon enough music isn't
going to crash into a brick wall . .but rather that giant pot of glued
culture. We'll have a singular genre of music. Either that or relapse into
the "grunge" era because of this sugary pop we're digesting. So be prepared
to either buy antidepressants, go back to basics, or see all the signs
for different genres in your local Camelot, Best Buys, or Virgin to say
"MUSIC". {Note: I love Nirvana. I love Incubus. Fred Durst is an ass. 06',
06'!)
Posted by
Mr. huh? saying, "My Generation Sucks!": I forgot to mention Joni Mitchell and
the current Aimee Mann. If you want to know how to write lyrics, study
these two.
Posted by
Trendkill138: Hey Mr Huh?, did you see Pat Benatar's
"Behind The Music"? Her daughter is doing some Britney-esque crap. I was
highly disappointed.
Posted by
Mr. huh? saying, "My Generation Sucks!": Actually Sheryl's latest song was no where
near what she is capable of, but is still a bit more creative than Britney.
People like Sheryl Crow, Alanis Morisette, Pat Benatar and those others
are good. Maybe not the best, but they musically blow away the whole teen
pop brigade, Destiny's Child, J-Lo, and others right out the water. Give
me "Hell is for Children", "Love is a Battlefield", "If it makes you Happy",
"Everyday is a Winding Road", "Hand in my Pocket", and others over any
teen divas anyday.
Posted by
you will obey me: great man, you make me proud. but my comments
weren't directed toward you...anyone capable of realizing that sh*t is
sh*t can find their own music to listen to. it's the other brain-washed
mother f*ckers i'm worried about. i still like janis though.
Posted by
MTV and Radio Suck: Great nuggets of wisdom there, "you will
obey me". I think I'm capable all by myself of telling the difference between
quality and crap, but thanks anyway for your wise warning. The one think
I agree with in your post is that most of the female singers listed below
in Mr. Huh?'s post are less than inspiring.
Posted by
you will obey me: go f*ck yourself. janis has more soul
than half the people out there today. plus she showed women you don't have
to give a F*ck what the rest of the world thinks. You are right though
my friend, there are some great new acts out there that are going unnoticed.
There are some diamonds amongst the pig sh*t, or something like that. but
be careful, as a great man once said, "if you crawl around in the sh*t
for too long, you become accustomed to the smell" don't buy in, just because
it's underground or for that matter pop, does not mean it's quality.
Posted by
MTV and Radio Sucks,etc..: Janis Joplin..all she did was a lot of
screaming. I agree there's a lot of talented female musicians, but I'm
sick and tired of all these whiny, screechy female pop singers out there.
Does everyone have to act like they are soooo over-wrought with emotion?
I like the lead singer of the Breeders (they have a new CD out), Garbage,
Rachel Sage, and a lot of others. You classic rockers kill me. There's
a lot of great new music out there - try CMJ New Music magazine - there's
a new CD every month with music from every genre.
Posted by
you will obey me: a couple of those female musicians are
on the verge of being good. but they still aren't. come on pat benatar?
sheryl crow? please have you heard her latest song? no better than good
ol britney. damn, if that's your list maybe we should add gwen stefani
and courtney love too. o i did forgot some of the women with incredible
vocal talent before, they just aren't the kind of music i listen to...aretha
franklin and other women who can sing with soul, now that girl can definitely
sing. again, just not my kind of music.
Posted by
zee: Okay, I have three points I want to make.
First, I know it seems like I'm becoming obsessive about this, but people
keep bringing it up. SLEATER-KINNEY IS THE BEST BAND CURRENTLY MAKING MUSIC.
Stop with the cracks about female musicians already. To the people who
are bitching at "Im da coolest" (nice spelling, man): I'm pretty sure that
guy was joking. No one's that much of an a$$hole. And finally, I apologize
to all the fans, but I must say for the record that I really, really, REALLY
hate Incubus.
Posted by
Mr. huh? saying, "My Generation Sucks!": Don't you think that's a bit much claiming
that Janis Joplin was the only good female musician ever. What about Joan
Jett, Pat Benatar, Alanis Morisette, Sarah McClachlan, Billie Holiday,
Sheryl Crow, Etta James, Patti Smith, Nico, P.J. Harvey, Ani DiFranco,
the singer for Portishead, and others.
Posted by
i hate laundry: too true, too true if you must listen
to pop music, listen to the old stuff: the beatles(irecommend their later
works, but whatever does it for you) or the stones. also-hendrix is a god,
his lyrics may leave something to be desired but, hey, you can't have everything.
its amazing guitar playing for a f*cked up guy. other old picks that are
better than the sh*t today: bob dylan, janis joplin(the only talented female
musician ever), tom petty, Black Sabbath, Aerosmith(gasp! ok so they aren't
so good now, but listen to the stuff from the 70s and 80s), black sabbath,
black sabbath, did i mention black sabbath. by the way scott stapp is a
god, the god of men with tiny d*cks who think they are the best thing on
the face of the f*cking planet. f*ck creed. if only they were half as good
as they think they are...
Posted by
MTV and Radio SUCKS ASS: Fred Durst is only second to Scott Stapp
when it comes to lame-ass egotistical untalented musical acts. I can't
get over how many brain-dead people there are out there who are brainwashed
into thinking this sh*t is real music. Go listen to your mom's CDs. Chances
are even if she listened to old top 40's hits back in the 60's or 70's,
it's a hell of a lot better than what you're listening to now!
Posted by
your mom's an ugly lesbian: im da coolest- ya man i'm sure your mommie
tells you that but i definitely know what to listen to without out mtv,
and the only reason fred durst is cool is because he gets to f*ck around
with hot girls. come on listen to yourself, mtv's cool, get you pussie
sixteen year old ass back to your mtv, go brainwash yourself some more
listen to music that's got no feeling get the f*ck out of here before i
strangle you with justin timberlake's little d*ck and hang your puny little
naked body in tipper gore's front yard to rot. The only way G&R's coming
full circle is if we get in a mother f*cking time machine and travel back
to the time of the real guns and roses. NO...i repeat no slash look-alikes.
i want the real thing, and just because he has the same hair. i'd like
to apologize on behalf of the entire state of indiana for producing someone
who has been as incredibly corrupted as axl rose. not everyone here has
that big of an ego or that little of a d*ck. Whatever it was that made
him think he could carry on the band name by himself and drag their f*cking
memory through the mud, That long haired freak ought to have the sh*t knocked
out of him. money corrupts all, maybe the communists had it right. or maybe
we ought to line up corporate executives and have them executed. hmmm...executives,
executed, that makes me think coincidence that they kill artistic expression
and freedom of speech...i don't think so.
Posted by
the imminent one: lay off g n'r they're still playing music
like no one else. Their time may come full cirlce.
Posted by
Tim the Enchantere Enchanter: Who says that finding good indie/underground
music is hard? If you've got a way to get on the net you can sample all
kinds of different music for free! http://www.mp3.com(free music from all
genres, use this place to find your good music before the Vivendi/Universal
media Executive scum decide to take this opportunity away from you as well)
http://www.iuma.com http://www.yahoo.com(follow their music links) There's
a good start. Surf over and wade through the crap and find the next great
band/artist of your liking. The only thing Viacom and Clear Channel(the
enemies of musical integrity) do for you is the wading, but then again,
look what you're left with if you let THEM do the wading through what THEY
say is the crap(but we know they mean that the crap is the music which
won't make them millions). I'll tell you now, there's going to be crap
music on those web sites, but what I'm also telling you that somewhere
amidst all the "dirt" music are "diamonds", bands that will totally kick
ass, but you have to be willing to make the effort to find them.
Posted by
Im da coolest: hey i dont know what the hell you guys
are talking about. MTV is great. they play all the coolest rap songs and
Limp Bizkit rules! Have u ever been to a limp show? fred is the man. Music
is great today. The mainstrain just filters out all the garbage and packs
neatly together all the quality music bieng made today. Without MTV no
one would know what to listen to. Music today is just as good as its ever
been and as good as its going to be. just face it guys. if u dont listen
to MTV u suck.
Posted by
brandonboydeatsrattestes: corporate america sucks. MTV, great idea
to start with but once agian, like radio, run by the great evil. No not
satan, nice guy, just got a bad rep, but i'm talking about big corporations.
They only give you watered down bullsh*t. Meant to please the masses. Do
you really want to be told what to listen to by a bunch of 40 or fifty
year old bald white guys? personally i'm sick of being told what to listen
to, i'd rather go lick a possum d*ck. and i dont mean a live one, i mean
one of those dead and bloated ones lying along the road. I must admit G&R
was not bad. Not as good as the original, maybe i would have been more
impressed if axl wasn't an egomaniac, and they didn't have a slash look-alike
in the band. Hey axl- f*ck off! just cause it looks like him doesn't mean
its the real thing. Looks like we have anonther person who's been corrupted,
trying to make money off of a good thing (aka the original G&R lineup)
people- grow some balls, and learn to reject whats being shoved in your
face, just because its shiny and new, or has big tits doesn't mean it makes
good music. If you must see britney spear's, etc., and i can understand
this, but for my sake, put the tv on mute. Its much better this way trust
me the music doesnt infect your brain with evil thoughts this way. incubus
isn't that bad, my problem is with audiovent, not a bad band at all but
come on with brandon boyd and mike einzinger's little brothers in the band,
how am i supposed to believe they're not just trying to make it big off
of incubus' name? lets worry about the real problem though f*ck MtV its
all real world any way(i won't even start on that sh*t), alanis morrisette
is standing behind you....naked!
Posted by
pick: Incubus is great. I think their latest
two albums are much better than Fungus Amongus and S.C.I.E.N.C.E., but
that's just my opinion.
Posted by
Mr. huh? saying, "My Generation Sucks!": Damn straight. God I hate everyone that's
knocking on Incubus.
Posted by
zee: Unfortunately, MTV is not in it for the
quality of the music, but to make money. Don't hate them for it- we all
have to earn a living. In their case that means playing whatever's profitable.
You're not gonna change that, so don't watch it if it bugs you! Listen
to good music instead. And I'll say this one more time: Please do not bitch
about good music not getting enough attention and then call the good bands
that do make it big "sellouts." It's hypocritical as all hell.
Posted by
Mr. huh? saying, "My Generation Sucks!": Not all post-grunge acts are rip-offs
(i.e. Local H, modern Days of the New, modern Silverchair), but sadly those
acts strive for originality and artistic credibility at the expense of
mainstream success which is handed to the rip-offs instead. In fact, some
of these rip-offs were great in their earlier releases (Creed's My Own
Prison, Nickleback's The State), but they decided to not progress and make
watered down crap instead. aG, I look forward to the rant on radio consolidation
of radio and labels into media conglomerates. I myself first heard about
all the crap from the many articles on Salom myself and now listen to strictly
college radio with delightful results. Such diversity with down-to-earth
feeling acts.
Posted by
Lori: Thanks, aG.. To evilroadie: thanks to
David Geffen and his perseverence in sticking with Nirvana, grunge came
to the masses. Now we are force-fed dumbed-down, grunge ripoff bands like
Creed, Nickleback, etc. by record companies who only want to market what
catches on right away (i.e., appeals to the lowest common denominator)
and who do not have the patience to wait and see if the less mainstream
bands will eventually find an audience. In my opinion, the Grunge sound
was over with by the early-mid 90's, but apparently there are a lot of
people out there (in my opinion, the ones who couldn't handle the newness
or edginess of it when it first came out, OR are too young and don't know
any better)who are now into the "grunge" sound and think these new bands
(who have nothing new to say and no originality whatsoever)are cool.
Posted by
aG: Lori, don't worry the consolidation of
radio and the labels into media conglomerates will be the focus of a future
rant. If you are interested in that subject Salon.com has a number of articles
that you should check out.
K - you should un-ban Stupid. I think his
narcissistic posts and apparent inferiority complex are mildly amusing,
especially when he tries to pass himself off as vastly superior and more
intelligent than everybody else and go[es] on pointless tirades against
my rants and his grammar is [at] about [a] 2nd grade level[,] which in
the long run just makes [him] seem like an idiot.
Posted by
Keavin: Ok let's get back on the topic. It's obvious
this stupid guy has some kind of problem with aG. aG must have bashed one
of his favorite bands for sucking. FYI most of the articles he mentioned
are on Rocknworld not anti. I decided to help him move on to other sites
and not waste his time here since he hates it so much by blocking him.
I normally wouldn't do that but hey he caught me in a bad mood and I'd
rather not have our readers bother arguing with someone like this, when
there are more important things to argue about. It's a waste of time. But
I will say, since he seems to be interested in grammar, I spotted a few
errors in his post. What was that they said about glass houses? and aG
how dare you use slang in a rock article! Shame on you! You wasted all
of that money to get that silly piece of paper and you resort to slang,
from now on you must only use the Queen's English! Ok enough of this silliness,
have a nice day!
Posted by
I Am Stupid is An Anal Tool.: Dude, you really are anal. aG explained
that the spelling was slang and you're too dense to grasp that? Techno
sucks and if you look you'll see industrial and hardcore reviews here.
You're the hypocritical tool, you bitch that a site rallies against MTV
and then bitch that they aren't underground enough for you and expect the
articles to be to epitome of English composition. Dude it's rock, get over
your anal self or go over to your pseudo under ground sites and be a poser
tool there. Great rant aG, you can't expect everyone to get it as I'm With,should
read I Am, Stupid shows. Hes probably some stupid college kid who thinks
hes hard cuz he listens to Kreator.
Posted by
aG: Damn it Stupid, I told you to take a Prozac!
You're riddlin' again! (see the slang usage) I won't bother responding
to the points in your tirade since you seem to miss the point and it really
doesn't matter in the end. But out of kindness, I will reaffirm the main
point of the article; if you don't like it don't waste your time with it.
So to spell it out for you; if you don't like the articles or coverage
on this site, don't waste your time reading them.
Posted by
pick: Stupid, that's why we come to this site.
It's a vent for most of us. Where I go to school, people either don't listen
to music or they listen to pop (although there are some Zep and Clapton
fans). So, in essence, I come here to talk with educated, cool music fans.
I don't care how much aG "bitches" about MTV...at least we have a site
to visit and speak our minds. Where else can you do that?
Posted by
i'm with stupid: Hey aG...i'm anal 'cause you can't spell
simple words correctly!? OK, let me explain this to you. In each and every
one of your "rants" you try to project yourself as vastly superior and
more intelligent than everybody else and go on pointless tirades against
the music industry, mtv, boy bands, etc., blah blah blah. Yet you can't
even spell correctly and your grammar is about 2nd grade level which in
the long run just makes you seem like an idiot. Anybody can bitch about
mtv and the big dumb record companies 'cause they're big fat targets. WHY
DON'T YOU JUST IGNORE THEM!?!?!?!? Who cares about MTV? Well, apparently
it seems you do. And as far as your condemnation of the mainstream (such
as in the last sentence of your rant), if you hate it so much then why
do you spend so much time obsessing over it?!? Its also particularly frustrating
to hear you and other people on this site bash the mainstream so much when
this site NEVER covers any bands that are truly underground or even controversial
(let's go through some of the names i see right now on the site..Staind,
Linkin Park, Deftones, Disturbed, Drowning Pool, Adema, Systematic, AC/DC,
Creed, U2, The Cult, Slipknot, Aerosmith, Pantera, Slash, Nickelback, NIN,
Tom Petty, Bon Jovi...not exactly underground groups, in fact i believe
they can be considered firmly entrenched in the mainstream world). You
don't cover hardcore, industrial, death metal, grindcore, any sort of techno,
you only blabber over mega-popular generic meat n' potatoes rock acts and
then you go on to slam the mainstream?!?!?! I may be anal, but its better
than being a clueless hypocrite.
Posted by
Mr. huh? saying, "My Generation Sucks!": What are you talking about? I give people
on MTV a chance. It's just that mostly, they let me down and are crap.
I first caught on to Incubus through MTV and now have the S.C.I.E.N.C.E.,
Make Yourself, and Morning View albums. They're one of the few acts on
MTV that has substance to them.
Posted by
Lori: I agree with everything you said, but
I think that you left out the fact the huge media conglomerates now own
MTV, VH1 and most of the radio stations across the country. They are controlling
what we hear and see, and now the FCC is seriously considering relaxing
more of the restrictions for cross-ownership and ownership of more radio
stations in a single market. This will only further decrease diversity.
Thanks for letting me voice my opinion.
Posted by
f***you : lets face it there is a chance that music
will never get better since you people don't give new artists a chance...like
omigod they are on mtv so i won't listen to them you're even worse than
the trlies.
Posted by
evilroadie: i agree completely with this. 99% of the
popular modern music is such crap that it usually isnt worth a second listen.
when its all made from the same formula and mold you cannot look to the
mainstream or mtv for anything new, innovative or for the most part worth
listening to. while a lot of people still (for reasons i dont know) view
mtv as the source of whats new and great in music its far from that to
those who listen to artists who are the real ones making the innovative
music. though in the past mtv did do a few things right (headbangers ball,
breaking grunge music to the masses, and maybe some more stuff) these days
they are nothing more then a tool for the record companies that make the
most money. and for the record thought the GnR performance wasnt too bad.
Posted by
pick: Actually, there was a good deal of corporate
music in the 50's and 60's. Ever here of Motown? Nashville? The Beatles,
Monkeys, Temptations, Supremes, etc., all went on large tours. Even the
Grateful Dead played for large audiences. I know the emphasis wasn't as
much on money but it was still big business.
Posted by
el cai: que bolas axl esta gordisimo pero canto
bien burda de bien diria yo!
Posted by
Mr. huh? saying, "My Generation Sucks!": Let me add that the Beatles didn't become
billionaires until after the music industry went big business. And MTV
has always sucked. Yes, even during the glory days of the early 90's with
acts like Nirvana, Pearl Jam, AIC, Smashing Pumpkins, Bjork, Collective
Soul, and such, other talented artists such as Aimee Mann and Faith No
More were kept in obscurity because they weren't angry and depressed.
Posted by
Mr. huh? saying, "My Generation Sucks!": Internet Radio? You mean those cyber-terroists
at the RIAA haven't imposed fascist rules on it yet? Wow. I agree with
Gabitsch. There was recorded music before the 70's, but it was on a small-scale
level and radio was what controled the trends. There was still some corruption
in those labels though, however, the music industry as a big business didn't
occur until the 70's when Peter Frampton hit made a million-seller with
"Frampton Comes Alive" which convinced the small-scale music industry that
there was a lot of money to be made, at which point they sold themselves
to big businesses and the music then became a commodity. It wasn't allowed
to speak for itself, but rather promotion occurred beforehand, based upon
whether or not the industry had a hit in you. The Rat is right too. While
you can just ignore the entertainment industry's currently popular stuff,
you can't ignore its effects and influence on society. Also, Michael Green,
Hillary Rosenthal, and all those other idiots at the RIAA can go suck a
co*k.
Posted by
Master of Meth: The Rat hit something there. Where was
Creed? Aren't they the biggest band in the land?
Posted by
Gabitsch: antiGUY is pretty much on the money, but
keep in mind that the music "industry" as we know it isn't really that
old. Hell, MTV is only a little bit younger! People will argue over this
one for a while, but to me the industry really began in the 70's, with
the big arena rock tours. It was around that time that an unprecedented
reliance on style over substance began to take shape. For example, the
industry took a talented Humble Pie guitarist, and turned him into Peter
Frampton, teen idol. WTF? It got worse with MTV, but about five years into
their run bands like Public Enemy were on all the time. So there was room
for substance, for a short time. (Somewhere in between Kajagoogoo and Slaughter,
I guess.) You've got it dead-on, though, that this year's VMA's are the
death-knell for the industry as we know it. (Is that the horsemen I hear
in the distance?) Maybe the mainstream will learn from its mistakes, and
start releasing albums by bands that aren't garage-punk knock-offs, boy-toy
Aderol punk or another bunch of goons singing in front of a drum machine.
But who cares? The average cat posting here doesn't watch MTV anyway. We'll
just continue to ignore it, and go our merry way, buying good albums from
good bands. Actually, if you really want something new, start buying COMICS
again! Even Marvel's gotten good again! Who'da thunk it?
Posted by
Huevos Pesados: Nirvana could influence you to blow your
brains out.
Posted by
Rat: I think it was clear to everyone(including
those at the awards)that the show was terrible.Everyone knew that axle
suck terribly, they also knew that eminem didnt deserve to even be there
and above all knew that the whole show is what I call a custom made money
making machine..the only problem is that they dont want to admitt it and
more importantly dont want it to be exposed. I find it sickening that in
the last ten years the pop music scene has gone from imbrassing such influencial
groups as Nirvana and pearl jam, to eminem and Puff daddy.Also its sad
that the one of the coolest bands there was linkin park..they can suck
a big fat Penis,at least the wasnt any creed or any other corperate rock
bands. The one thing that bothered me at this years award show is the show
itself, it to me was a reflection of society, like you said, I dont care
about mainstream or MTV, but what I do care about is society and the people
around me. They are brainwashed, slaves to trend makers.I see the MTV music
awards as an illustration of whos around me, and unfortunatly this year
it seem as though there is nothing but zombies.People without minds of
the own are just as useless as the dead except the dead arent in the way.
Posted by
pick: aG, I like the point about MTV playing
some decent vids. I remember staying up until 2, 3 in the morning to watch
some good clips. It was worth it, even if I did have to watch bull in between.
Posted by
Adria: I halfway disagree, yet in many more ways
then one, I agree. So - I praise you for that story.
Posted by
aG: P.S. To stupid, it's antiGUY not Anti-Guy,
which with that spelling can be used to describe someone who hates males
such as feminist. I know your anal nature couldn't let yourself get by
with a mistake like that and I'm happy to help you out.
Posted by
aG: Thanks Trendkill for having my back. The
spelling of riddlin came from a slang term for the drug that was derived
from the taunt against those who need it, "you're riddlin' man!" Yes, I
realize the poster below may not know this because he or she might have
ridden the short bus to school and as a rule school administrators try
to keep the mentally challenged students away from the general student
body so that they won't be picked on. After seeing the proper pharmaceutical
name of the drug everyday for years as he or she took their dosage from
the bottle, I can understand this person's anal tendency to be upset with
the slang spelling, which he or she obviously never heard having been a
person on Ritalin and thus being properly drugged out and never causing
people to taunt, "you're riddlin' man!" As for your childish comment about
dropping out of kindergarten, since you are so hung up on word origins
I will tell you that the word "kindergarten" comes from the German language.
Kinder means children and garten translates to the English form of the
world garden, thus you have a children garden. Now go take your prozac,
switch on your MTV and calm down. Scissors, yes MTV has pretty much always
sucked but over the past 10 years they have taken that "suckiness" (no
anal posts stating that isn't a word) to a new low. The programming has
always been mainstream, even headbangers ball showed their fair share of
crap videos. At times a 9 to 1 ratio of crap pop metal videos to real metal
videos. But you used to be able to watch and hopefully catch one or two
cool videos an hour in between the bad ones. Once they started in with
"original shows", I believe that began with their gameshow "remote control",
it started to go down hill to the point where on the rare occasion you
do see a video it is for an insipid pop song or the "flava" (again no anal
posts about the slang spelling) of week mainstream hip-hop star. The VMA's
just illustrate the overall decline of the station and of mainstream music
in general. I rarely switch on MTV these days and haven't done so for years
and with the change in VH1's programming to "drivin" marathons, new focus
on hip-hop and lame reenactments of sh*tcom's, I find myself reluctant
to even switch that station on and instead will tune in VH1 classic, which
shows videos that MTV never aired.
Posted by
loobie: mainstream music sucked then and it sucks
now! get a load of cristina agulera, she used to look like beverly hills
90210 barbie, now she looks like crack whore, trailer park, takes it in
the can barbie! axl rose what the f#ck, man how many years to make an album
8-9? that's even longer than boston, talk about writer's cramp. that nine
inch nails dude, robin looked cool as hell though, so did bucket head.
he might pull it off.
Posted by
Runs With Scissors: Oh yeah, my original point. I think antiGUY
did a wicked good job at compairing the two award shows (I refuse to call
them the VMAs... uh ... doh!) and he's right about everything except the
"decline" of MTV. Dude, that friggen station will be around after the nuclear
fallout along with the cochroaches. And why is that? For the same reason
they've ALWAYS been around, they change with what's popular with the times.
It kills me that they don't play more rock, but that's not what's big right
now; disposable crap is what's in! Don't like it? Go support your rock
band and see what happens. Bedialing!!!
Posted by
Trendkill138: The Riddlin' Kids used to be known as
The Ritalin Kids. I think they changed their name to avoid lawsuits, or
whatever. That might be where Anti-Guy got the idea for saying riddlin'
instead of Ritalin.
Posted by
Runs With Scissors: Rant rant rant rant... people who write
at such length and so passionately about how they don't care is funny!
Um... free Kevin!
Posted by
Jack: Punk rock sucks. Sucked in the seventies
and it sucks now. The Clash are lame
Posted by
i'm with stupid: Hey Anti-Guy! Question: What's riddlin?
Answer: an abbreviated form of the word riddling! Another question: what's
RITALIN? Another answer: A drug used for kids with ADD!! Did you drop out
of kindergarten?!?
Posted by
becomeyourownGOD: Look who cares? Really you say you don't
and you want to be so anit-everything. But you rant and rave so you must
care. Me I don't I listen to cd and the music in the pub. I didn't even
see the MTV awards. Just shows that you did and knew that it would sucked
but still watched, WHY WHY WHY? The only way to kill MTV and the radio
is to turn it off, forget and move on.
Posted by
heyheyhey: Hate what you hear on MTV or the radio???
Then support Internet Radio. http://www.voiceofwebcasters.org/smallwebfax.htm
Posted by
Howl Movement: Popular music has seen exponentially shrinking
lifespans of popularity. American Music has gone from Elvis to the Beatles/Stones
to Bowie to U2 to Nirvana to NSYNC. In our disposable society so focused
on amateur voyeurism, we're only a decade from seeing our musicians having
careerspans of mere weeks instead of years or decades. (I'm such a pretentious
wanker. :) But my point is MTV will always pander to the lowest common
denominator. But you don't have to watch it.
Posted by
louevilian: At least Limp Bizkit broke up.
Posted by
Trendkill138: The first two Clash albums, "The Clash"(1977)
and "Give 'em Enough Rope"(1978), were definitely punk. Their later stuff
didn't sound quite as angry, but they still had some urgent lyrics.
Posted by
David: MTV never played any good Hard Rock. The
same thing that happened to Metal in the eighties has happened to Punk
in the Nineties and today. The Metal underground in the eighties had Slayer,Mercyful
Fate, Celtic Frost, etc. Really hard as hell bands. MTV would not play
those bands only watered down crap like Poison, Bon Jovi, etc. Punk rock
has experienced the same thing. All of the hardcore Punk bands are underground
while crap like Blink 182, Green Day, Rancid etc. is presented to the mainstream
record buyer as "Punk". Ultimately, who cares? Well it would be nice if
some great underground Metal and Punk bands had some exposure, but then
look what happened to Metallica. Exposure went to their heads and they
totally sold their souls to Corporate Rock and MTV. Maybe we all should
just listen to music we like and do not worry if it is popular or not?
That is the true Punk spirit.
Posted by
Bobby: I never thought of The Clash as a great
band. To us back in the eighties they were "New Wave" Right along with
Cyndi Lauper, Thomas Dolby, Flock of Seaguls, etc. Not angry enough to
be Punk.
Posted by
GREENMUSE: just thinking of it makes me wanan cry.rudie
cant fail is one of my favorite clash songs,now when i hear it,my mind
will be etched with guliani's sh*t eating grin.
Posted by
Trendkill138: Bobby, that was just a small part of "Rudie
Can't Fail" that was heard on the VMAs. Saying you thought it sucked just
from that is like someone saying that they thought "Stairway To Heaven"
sucked after only hearing the very end where it's just Robert Plant singing
"And she's buying a stairway to Heaven." Not that I'm a big "Stairway"
fan, I just thought it was a good example.
Posted by
Bufo: I still think that they should either
bring back Headbanger's ball, or make MTV2 into an all metal channel, like
they were going to in the beginning. THOSE F*CKING BASTARDS!
Posted by
antirant: i dont understand about the classic songs
appearing on advertisements. the artists are just as much part of the consipracy
as are the marketing folks. its the artists who give the rights off anywayz...
but all that said i dont give a rats ass about it . coz i feel if the artist
wants to give off his creation or sell it hez got all the right coz he
owns it . isnt tht always been the case with mankind.
Posted by
pick: Let's face it: MTV is for pure entertainment.
I'll admit that I enjoy music videos even by artists I hate. For example,
I don't care for Eminem, but his "Real Slim Shady" video made me laugh
so hard I nearly pissed my pants. Radio, like Huh said, is what I'm concerned
about. With media buyouts running amok, I dread the day when one company
owns all of the stations in one large area. Leave MTV alone and concentrate
on radio.
Posted by
Michelle Branch's clit: Die MTV!!! Die!!
Posted by
Paulo: Aren't you guys forgeting something? as
far as i remember in 1992 all the magazines were promoting Michael Jackson
Album Dangerous. and making a lot of money with that! He won dozens of
awards including the Artist of the Decade.
Posted by
Bobby: I never heard That Clash Rudie song before.
It sucked to me. Just a quick comment. The same way alot of popular music
is terrible a lot of unpopular music is terrible as well. What I mean is
a lot of artists put out bad music and then proclaim themselves "Alternative"
or "punk" No your not. Nobody buys your music because it sucks!!
Posted by
Axl: Whatever happened to REAL Rock N roll?
Not alternative, not punk, not rap-metal, JUst STRAIGHT UP ROCK N ROLL?
Sad to say real rock music seems dead and buried.
Posted by
David: Whatever happened to Heavy Metal?? I like
some alternative, Punk, etc. biut Metal has totally dissapeared from MTV
and the radio. No wonder people went crazy for GNR. And no I am not talking
about Poison and Bon Jovi. There are a lot of great underground Metal bands
out there that never see the light of day on radio or MTV.
Posted by
Trendkill138: I thought using "Rudie Can't Fail" for
Rudy Giuliani was funny, but partly in the same way that using "London
Calling" for a Jaguar commercial is funny. I couldn't help but wonder how
many people in Radio City Music Hall had heard "Rudie Can't Fail" before
that night.
Posted by
Stupendous Man: Too bad they won't be publishing this
article in the papers.
Posted by
VT750rider: I couldn't agree with this article more.
MTV and the mainstream garbage out there should be ashamed to call what
they promote "music". Metal forever!!
Posted by
GREENMUSE: the "rudie cant fail thing"made me wanna
cry,or throw stuff at my tv,didnt guliani have homeless people killed?
or "removed"
Posted by
SMIC: 92 a better yearr for me as well, The
industry is quite diffrent then it was 10 years ago, hopefully it is about
time for the cycle to come on back around and bring us some good stuff
again
Posted by
bored: Jimmy Fallons slave is more like jimmy
fallons hemorroid. Just because band has guitars doesnt make it more "real
music". Thats the dumbest thing I've heard. So what is the solution...to
promote the same stupid neanderthal rednceck bs metal bands? Is that really
going to solve the "I hate MTV" whine-o-thon? Why even bother worrying
about it if you hate it so much? LIke the late great Ken Kesey said...just
turn your back on it and say f-it! I'm so sick of people complaining about
a genre that doesnt even matter to them. Its as dumb as any metal band
complaining about boy bands. Criticise your own genre...and make it stronger.
You should be above all the rest. MTV shouldnt even count if you are oh-so-cool-and-hard-rock-rebels.
Please!
Posted by
Music sux: I wish when kurt cobain died we had killed
axl so the both would have been marters. If a rock messiah does come around
we should kill him before he turns into a fat elvis
Posted by
Cojones Grandes: They can delete my posts, but they can
never change the fact that Nirvana sucked, and always will. Poser sellout
fake punks!
Posted by
HEVEX1: gUNS ROCKED DESPITE THE NEW LINE UP, BUT
I DO HAVE TO SAY THE KURT COBAIN WILL ALWAYS HAVE A POINT ABOUT AXL ROSE'S
RACIST ATTITUDE AS EXPRESSED IN 'ONE IN A MILLION'. aLSO LITHIUM SOUNDED
KILLER LIVE BACK IN 92 AND JIMMY FALLON BLEW CHUNKS AS MC. CHRIS ROCK WAS
HELLA BETTER...THIS VMA WAS LIKE 93, LIMP AND DUMB. NO TIM BOB FROM RAGE
HANGING ON A CHANDELIER!
Posted by
Michelle Branch sat on my face.: good music will not be found on MTV or
top 40 radio, all the good stuff is in your local bars. The REAL American
Idols are not Sideshow Bob and his crew on The Fox Network, They are your
struggling talented musicians who are trying to get on top, but the pretty
manufactured pop star is keeping them from reaching the top.
Posted by
mart : shinobi is just a brainwashed MTV lover.
we apologize for insulting your heros at MTV
Posted by
MICHELLE BRANCH SAT ON MY FACE: .....AND IT WAS GOOD.
Posted by
sh*t stain: I think Michelle Branch should go out
with me. I am not weird but I could take a car and drive it to the 7-11
for a 99 cent taco. The Rug caught fire when I put the big light on it.
Mom was mad. But soon I shot out the lights in the yard. Dad was mad. then
I got shot too. In the end we all are made of stars that poo. I ate a hotdog
that rolled under my fridge, I didn't want too. But I was hungry. Sombody
is looking at me, wheres my hankie.
Posted by
herman killjoy: number one: right on brother, number two:
the hives suck so hard it pains me. The only people I know who are into
the hives are former *nsync fans that have realized that *nsync's music
sucks and want something not pop but extremely digestible.
Posted by
lonerboy: i think thats quite possibly the best
opinions/news piece i have ever read. its almost like reading what i have
felt this entire time but couldn't put into words. totally cool. you've
outdone yourself this time. later
Posted by
Mr. huh? saying, "My Generation Sucks!": It's worse than you all think. Don' forget
that radio has changed a lot since '92 as well. Ownership caps have been
taken off and now the vast VAST majority of radio stations all belong to
a very VERY small number of owners who push a narrow NARROW playlist that
is mostly based upon legal payola laundered from the record companies,
through independant promosters, to the radio stations (the independant
promoters are in such seats of power at radio, that they now ultimately
decide what becomes a hit). Bringing back ownership caps on radio and stopping
independant promotion payola pays a great deal in saving the music scene.
Perhaps aG, you should dedicate your next RANTitorial to the problems of
radio.
Posted by
someone or something: the michelle branch comment by her was
just a joke kuz she was in shock for getting the award, but she wasnt actually
drunk...pink was...and x-tina aguilera looked like she was on some dope
or something... anyways, you are completely right about this rant. MTV
reflects only was is the "flavor of the week". Every once in a while they
actually present an artist with staying power and with real musicianship...
Posted by
Batman: The problem is best shown in that the
awards aren't for music-they're for videos. This means that the awards
should go to directors/producers/etc. of videos, not the "musicians," who
can be very uninvolved in the process (see the White Stripes for this year's
example.)
Posted by
Cojones Grandes: yes, Nirvana went on to make a real "bang"
on the music scene. forget about that band of posers!
Posted by
Trendkill138: It's obvious that MTV and mainstream music
have gone downhill, but I think the VMAs have REALLY gone downhill since
they moved it to Radio City Music Hall. That place just doesn't feel right
for the VMAs. A couple of factual errors I spotted: I think Pee Wee Herman
introduced the 1991 awards, and I'm sure it was Michelle Branch who said
she was drunker than Pink. I think I remember that so well because Michelle
Branch is under 21. If I were under 21, I don't think I would admit being
drunk on t.v.
yup you were right about Michelle Branch, fixed it. As for
Pee Wee, I remember it was the 92 awards and I have found conflicting reports.
Some put it as 92 and some as 91. He was arrested in July 91 so maybe it
was 91... -aG
Posted by
burning red: if i was a multi billianare, i would by
out mtv and run it off as proper music channel and play equal amounts of
whatever genre there is out there(except country, classical, pop, and dance
music) then nobody would be bitching about this artist gets more air play
than that artist then everybody would happy.
Posted by
Jimmy Fallon's Slave: antiguy i admire your strong points of
views, i wish i could be so passionate about something as you are about
music, unfortunately, it seems nobody can be oneself, without taking crap
from people. i do admit that the 1992 VMAs were better, but come on, you
got to admit that this years host (Jimmy Fallon, king of the world)was
extraordinary and way better than Jamie Fox (2001 was the worst in VMA
history). and the Hives and Vines performance was great, maybe not as good
as Nirvana, but it was the only real music besides Guns and Roses in the
whole show.
Posted by
Furious Chicken: That has got to be the most concise article
on the state of music I have read. I am glad to see my own thoughts put
in the view of the public. With everyone so jaded I thought maybe I was
the one who had lost touch.
