Joey Buttafuoco
The new shyt sucks. wickerman was the
only exception early in the set. Don't waste your money on a ticket where
you're gonna hear 3 or 4 good songs and the rest is absolute crap. I was
there man! the show sucked bigtime! And that's the truth about it!
Id
I think antiguy touches on a paradox faced
by just about all successful older rock bands in that their concerts are
going to be fill with primarily the die-hards who want to hear the hits.
The problem lies in when the artists realize,like it or not, that that
is all they're ever really expected to live up to(the past). Who wouldn't
be pissed in having to deal with that kind of crap when until them you
were living off your creativity. Evolution is a Bytch plan and simple.
barqu
I saw Maiden a few weeks ago in Phoenix.
While I was a bit dissapointed that they didn't play a whole lot of old
stuff, they still put on a hell of a show. The biggest flaw I found was
the songs from "X Factor" and "Virtual IX", two albums which were pretty
bad, and almost no one seemed to be familiar with them at all. I didn't
mind hearing a lot of stuff from BNW, I figured they'd showcase a lot of
that stuff, but I would have at least like to have heard Run to the Hills.
The inclusion of "Sanctuary" late in the set was a total shock, and almost
totally made up for the lack of other old stuff. To say that you'll never
see Maiden again because of this, well, how big of a fan are you? I'll
see Maiden again and again, as long as it's Bruce at the helm. As far as
US vs Europe, I've had the pleasure of seeing the Waldrock festival a couple
of years back, with Mercyful Fate, Immortal, In Flames, SOD, and a slew
of other bands in Holland, and I can tell you, you're not gonna see any
of those nabds on any US festival tours, like Ozzfest or Family Values
or Tatoo the Earth, or any of em. On the other hand, at the Maiden show
in Phoenix, Bruce seemed genuinely blown away by the incredible fan reaction.
Supposedly Phoenix is the only US city to chant "Maiden. Maiden!" from
beginning to end, so we were kinda proud of that. Over all, the show kicked
much ass, and I will see them every time they come back.
justHerb
Iron Maiden did a whole tour last year
based on exactly the songs that the fans wanted to hear. How many other
bands have done that? What more can you ask from them? This isn't a movie
or a Broadway show that you go to once a year and watch the same thing
over and over again. This is live music. If you love the old stuff then
stay home and watch Live After Death or Maiden England. If you want to
see what the band is doing now, then buy a ticket and go. At least Maiden
plays their older material live, some bands denounce their earlier recordings
and just play what's popular with the masses. Come on people, they're Maiden.
Can't you find something better to complain about? Maybe they should stay
home and let you go to Ozzfest or some other Mass produced piece of commercial
crap.
metallica7
message to Maidian Europe.. if the U.S.
music scene sucks then why do 90% of all bands play here and have bigger
tours here? why does Europe whine they cant get alot of U.S import cds
you guys so badly want. One is not better than the other, and your talking
about 2 different cultures. also BNW is a great cd in this reviewers eyes,
but i paid my $16 dollars to hear it. but to pay $40 to jsut hear it live
and only 2 count it "TWO" songs from their past that made me a true Maiden
fan totally disapointed me to no end. Its not a issue of living in the
past, reliving the"80's" blah blah blah because gee how many gold albums
were created from their past covers. what song is your favorite that turned
you onto maiden? didnt hear mine in concert...didnt even hear number of
the beast! we got tracks 1-5 from bnw (here in concert in phx) and then
bruce (who i totally respect) strutted around bored and pissed off cause
the crowd was confused, bored and even was talking thru the remaining sets.
trust me i know cause i was onstage working security. still dont believe
me that it was horrible? go into www.edhunter.com their web site and read
alot of reviews from true Maiden fans all over and see their comments reviewing
the same thing i said here. no one here is living in the past, what has
happened is Maiden id forgetting that the past is what got them here today.
putit this way, id living in the past is all their doing... i worked SANTANA
last night (10/11) and he played songs from the 60's, 70's on up to today
and trust me...he didnt rely on his 8 grammy cd to just play on the tracks
on it to please the crowd. put it this way... the fans were on their feet
from the moment EVERLAST started till Santana went off, and the crowd rocked
louder than maiden. anyways im drifting from the topic. in closing it was
sad that Halford and Queensryc worked up the crowd supporting the headliners
and they in turn (Maiden) put them back to sleep.
MaidenEurope
U.S. music scene sucks more and more!
Americans live always in the past. Brave New World is really great record!
Better than any lame Panterra or Metallica record. Why you went to see
Maiden, if you didn't like BNW??? Europeans and rest of the world understand
more Maiden than idiot wankers from U.S.!
nevermind
The biggest waste of 40 bucks I ever spent.
I just wish I would have read this before I got screwed by the band.
Ravendude009
HAHA and they wonder why the press gives
them a hard time there own fans are doing it too. doesn't that tell them
something. I read about this on the message boards on their own site, there
are a lot of pissed off Iron Maiden fans out there right now because of
this commercialized hey we need to sell our new record tour. It's a shame
that they have such distaste for there past and there fans.
Eddie
I'm a Maiden fan and I was really disappointed
that they played mostly new stuff. I guess our loyalty to them after all
these years doesn't mean shyt. I won't waist another cent seeing this band
again.
Mike
I totally agree. Why are they ashamed
of their past? Are they ashamed of their past fans? screw them!
Joey Buttafuoco
The show fukking sucked at Irvine. I was
there. If they didn't suck then why the hell did everyone leave?
thefallenangel
ok ive been reading your coments and i
do not know what you guys are talking about i saw them September 3 in San
Antonio here in texas and they ROCKED!!!! the best show ive seen the band
was into it, the crowd was into it, nobody left early ,you say ther not
playing enough of there older songs on this tour well they played wrathchild,
2 minutes, the trooper,evil that men do, fear of the dark, Number,hallowed,sancutaryi
mean come on what more do you guys WANT,they cant just play there old songs
they have to blance it out between the old and new ,and the crowd was really
into the new songs everybody was singing along to Dream of Mirrors,wickerman,ghost
of the navigator the crowd was really treating these songs like the classics
there destynd to become i even heard people say they cant wait to see them
again ill be there to.
Roger
Tim thats doesn't wash cuz they picked
up most of their fans in the 80's. So to do this crap tour after tour will
only alienate your fan base like they did to me. They come off like all
they are doing is pushing the new record cuz it ain't selling like they
used to.
Roger
They did the same damn thing on the Seventh
Sun tour. I saw them on every tour from Beast thru that one but after that
I never went back and it looks like that was the smart thing to do.
tim
never said there was anything wrong with
that. and i never said they didnt have loyal fans. i just said that they
may have tryed to hard to look like there stuck in the 80`s. seeing how
the attitude is from a lot of people these days. and that is the truth.
couldve also been the reason why queens ryche didnt play silent lucidity.
because it is branded an 80`s mtvish balled. maybe these bands are a lttle
gun shy these days. maybe they want to test the water first before they
jump in. if i had a chance to see them, i would jump at the chance. you
cant judge a bands live performance on one show or one tour. this is when
they need our support the most.
antiGUY
Necrothorn - I am a huge Maiden fan and
I loved BNW but I went to this same show to see and hear them play songs
from all of their albums not just the new one. And I know I was not alone
in this as other post here clearly illustrates. People go to see a band
hoping to hear all the songs that made them fans and kept them fans through
the years not just one song after another from the current CD. I saw AC/DC
the following week and you know what it was one of the best shows I have
ever seen. Why? Because they played songs from their entire catalog and
even the stuff from the new CD was great. But the show would have sucked
if they came out and played Stiff Upper Lip song for song and only played
3 or 4 of the old classics. It's Iron Maiden prerogative to do this, but
even if I might like the current CD I will most likely not go see them
live again because I want to hear songs from all the CD's not just the
latest one. What's wrong with that?
tim
Sorry, not trying to hog the board. But
if we treated someone we love like we treated some of these bands they
would be hurt,confused and eventually leave. In other words to toss em
aside when there no longer in vogue and then pick back up on it cause its
gaining popularity again is doing nothing but alienating these bands. they
must think americans are shollow a** holes and obviously dont really apreacheate
REAL ROCK. Every one seems to jumped on this alternative gen. x thing when
it was the hottest trend and now that its pretty much dead they want to
go running back to rock. TRY doing that with your wife, would you blame
her if she no longer wanted to see you again? I think we as a country need
to check our attitudes and priorities. ROCK WILL NEVER DIE BUT AMERICANS
MIGHT ALEANATE IT FOR GOOD ONE DAY.
tim
I think they might have been paranoid.
Seeing the predudice state of mind in this country toward ANY thing that
came out of the 80`s and is straight foward. The band might have been trying
to prove somthing and then over compensated for it. It`s hard for a band
to put all this together and then worry if they will have to go home early
cause they wasted there time here. I blame this generation of americans
for setting a bad atmasphere towards real rock. Europe rocks better than
we do and always has and always will. And whats pethetic is that rock was
born here. This country ought to be ashamed of itself. Especialy this past
generation.
Necrothorn
All this carping about Maiden is ridiculous
to me. I live in Florida, and I would've given my left bean to see them.
I gave BNW a chance and loved it; therefore, I would like to see some of
it live. Those who didn't appreciate it probably weren't huge Maiden fans
anyway. You can have Korn, Bizkit, Incubus, etc. I'll take bands like Maiden,
Halford and Q-Ryche any day.
Accident of Birth
*When=Went, sorry
Accident of Birth
If all the fans that went to the shows
also purchased the cd Maiden would've been higher then 40 on the charts.
Perhaps maybe if they actually when out and got the cd they would've enjoyed
the show more. Actually knowing the material helps a lot. So if anyone
should be looked down on it should be the "fans". Who just happened to
appear from nowhere once again.
metallica7
yeah but MetalGod and Guido whens the
last time other than this year that Maidien has been on tour? i can understand
if this is like the 3rd leg of a 2 year tour, yeah playing the covers get
old. but they havent been "world wide" in what...ten years? dont get me
wrong, im an extreame die hard fan but me as well as others in here were
very disappointed. and like me, if you get the offical newletter directly
from maiden, they in their owns words were disapointed in their west coast
shows from their own mouths! i dunno maybe they were burned out playing
all the old covers starting off in Europe and by the time they hit North
America they were burned out on them who knows. but to let your fans down
here was wrong
MetalGod
I think you're dead wrong on your review.
MAIDEN ARE NOT ONLY ABOUT THE PAST!!!! Read this review for a differing
opinion http://www.metal-rules.com/ concerts/IronMaiden.htm
Guido
What they band plays is THEIR business.
They wrote the songs, they perform the songs, we as fans should go to see
them do what they do...and that is...to see them put on the show THEY want
us to see. It's selfish to argue oversetlists. If you were in a band you
wouldn't want your fans to dictate the setlist. A lot of bands go through
this...it's called growing pains. Some fans will leave and some will stay...just
a fact of life, deal with it.
metallica7
for fun and as a second income i work
concert security for all forms of music here in Arizona and i can say that
the reviewer Keavin Wiggins described my feelings excatly for the show
here in Phoenix. halford started the frenzy opening and being Phx is his
hometown, really lit of the night. Queensryc kept pace and was well withing
the mood of the crowd and kept the feeling alive. once Maidian arrived
(after a long grandstanding wait) they started out great and then slipped
into complete boredom. being a long time fan yeah i can understand not
wanting to rely on alot of the old songs but the Irons made it seem that
they were bytchy about even playing them. totally was disapointed and yeah
quite a few "let down fans" and im talking hard core fully decked out eddie
fans were even filing out. sad to say but being gone from the limelight
and touring to support their new cd... Maidian is really letting down their
fan base, and its gonna show.
Ed
I just simply don't know what happened
in Caifornia. I saw Iron Maiden a couple of months ago here in London and
it f*ck*n' rocked! There are some great songs in the new album like the
wickerman, brave new world, the mercenary to name a few, and absolutely
no one walked out early, maybe their attitude was different, maybe the
crowd was diferent, maybe they played more classics, I dunno what it was,
but you guys don't seem to be talking about the same irons that I saw live
on june this year.. At least Bruce has helped metal a lot here, cos rockers
here always have to fight to keep their place against pop and dance and
all that krap that MTV and most of the media talks about and points to
be the things for us to follow. That's all I wanted to say guys..I'm out.
Peace!
Motorhead
Ah someone said it! I've been waiting
to read this. It's true, it's true. Maiden needs to stop all of the this
symphonic rubbish and get back to writing metal songs then people won't
mind hearing them live as it is now they are bloody boring and way to long
with no balls.
Scott
I was royally ripped off too. Bruce sucks
now and his "I don't wanna relive your past either" pissed me off. The
truth is Maiden died with Eddie they are not half that band they used to
be!
Joey Buttafuoco
The reviewer is right. I was at the Irvine
Meadows show and it happened exactly like he said. Maiden played Wrathchild,
The Trooper and 2 minutes to midnight and everything else just sucked.
As soon as Bruce Dickinson announced the band was gonna play this long
ass song called Dream of Minions everybody split. The show sucked. I'll
never go see them live again.
King of Nothing
Huh, when they played up here in New England,
everyone was rocking...even to the new stuff, and NO ONE left before the
end of the show. Guess we all are just smarter. KON
HEADBANGER
HAHAHA I knew I was smart to skip maiden
this time. Brave New World sucked why shouldn,t the tour suck too?
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