Posted by
Mr Soulman: Oh my God. You guys get the trophey for
stupidity. Where did the man, Scott, said anything about comparing Creed's
music to that of Zeppelin's? He was making reference to the hardship found
in dealing with the critics. That's it. Stop taking people out of context.
Posted by
san: SCOTT STAPP IS A TROLL TOO!
Posted by
san: SCOTT SCAPP IS A TROLL!
Posted by
Fin: OH COME ON!! Stapp deserves to have his
balls bitten off, for not just thinking that he has anything in common
with Zeppelin, but to actually say it without thinking of how pissed die
hard zep fans would be. Come on man! Listen to zep 1 2 or 3 and then the
Creed albums if you don't hear a difference then you are retarded!
Posted by
thomas: mmk im sorry but creed sucks and they
suck hard. scott sounds constipated when he sings, not only that but he
never stands with his knees stright, he says it hurts....makes you wonder
what hes been doin to make standing up right a painful experience
Posted by
sara: creed is one of the best bands of all
time. it seems to me there are to many jealous people in the world!!!
Posted by
joen00b: For all you Creed lovers out there, I
have one question... what is the name of their bass player?
Posted by
nay: Disagree! Led Zep kicks...creed licks
Posted by
odinandthe hammer of the gods: i meant to say over 100 million....still
better than that creed shyte!
Posted by
odinandthe hammer of the gods: i meant to say over 100 million....still
better than that creed shyte!
Posted by
get with it: The creed fad has already died down...that's
what will happen when you write one song and one riff and change the order
of notes and try to sell 3 records...it took the stupid buying public 3
records to figure this out. Led zep has been over for 22 years and whenever
they come up in the news people crap their pants hoping the reunion rumours
are true.got it?
Posted by
jaryanforgottosay: I forgot to say, have any Creed fans heard
Stapp's voice in concert? It's horrible! His voice makes my head hurt it's
so bad. Lucky for him technology has allowed editors to make his voice
sound better on record. On the other hand, each of Led Zeppelin's members
are considered masters of their roles in the band. Bonham is considered
by almost everyone who knows classic rock as the greatest rock drummer
ever to live, Plant with the most influential, psychodelic, screaming voice
of all rock singers, Jones proves a bass player can add so much and more,
and Page, well, what can I say, the day that anyone from Creed masters
his stuff will be when pigs fly.
Posted by
jaryan: The words Creed and Led Zeppelin shouldn't
even be in the same sentence. Led Zeppelin is so far above and beyond what
Creed could ever dream of being. All you who are Creed lovers need to listen
to some Zep and realize what talent and superior musical ability really
is. Also, whoever wrote about Michael Jackson being the top seller needs
to go to the pop music argument page, we're talking about real rock and
roll and blues here (pertaining to Zep) not some pansy grab my crotch and
let the keyboard play my music for me kind of stuff. Bow to Led Zeppelin.
Posted by
Edgeof: scott stapp makes me want to stick things
in my eye. their albums are just TOO MUCH OF THE SAME THING. they have
absolutely NO creativity or originality.
Posted by
uppity: I think they are reffering to sales by
a rock band and the beatles hold the number 1 spot followed by led zeppelin.
Posted by
Shaun: I am not too sure, but I believe Michael
Jackson is the top seller in records. Thriller was the best selling record
of all time (not to mention the best music video), and if you add all his
other records, I think it adds up to more sales than the Beatles record
sales. Not sure, though.
Posted by
Sari: "I think they shoot coz they want it"
Posted by
the hammer of the gods and odin: hey creed for life you idiot this article
is about zeppelin too...that would explain why we're here defending our
band...i haven't gone far, and don't have any #1 singles but my band has
sold over 200 million records worldwide. You know what that means....second
only to the beatles.Calm the f*#k down!
Posted by
Creed4Life: it amuses me that all the haters take
so much time and effort not only to read an article about creed but to
post responses that are lengthy and ignorant. How far have you gone, how
many number one singles have you released? thats what i thought.
Posted by
candyangel8: It's so amusing to strike a nerve. Face
the fact that CREED fans will always out number the critics by the millions.
We'll laugh with them all the way to the bank and to the Rock n Roll Hall
of Fame :)
Posted by
pardon: um...i'm sorry i thought i read that wrong...but
when i opened up my eyes and read it again i realized that candyangel called
creed a living legeng.HA HA HA HA HA HA look sweetheart, backstreet boys
have positive messages in songs, are they too considered living legends?
Plus you need more than 5 or 6 years to be called alegend.HA HA HA HA.
Posted by
candyangel8: CREED is already a living legend. Some
people can't handle a positive message and chose to live in a pessimistic
world.
Posted by
Voodooboy: Oh jeez could Creed suck anymore then
they already do? Let me think....no, no they couldnt. They suck. Why do
they sell so much? Ill tell ya why! Cuz they play theyre gay ass songs
on all the radio stations even they cheesy ones that 40 year old moms listen
to. All these people like theyre gay music old people and poor misguided
young people. I dont like the way Creed has this religious vibe to them,
this Christian vibe. But Zeppelin had this Occult vibe to them and man
how cool was that? I mean come on whats cooler the Occult or Christianity?
hahaha come on people. Anyhoo comparing Creed to Zeppelin is hilarious.
Zeppelin was marvelous in every respect. Page was a masterful musician,
Plant was a wonderful singer, Bonham a good drummer (but by no means as
good as Mitch Mitchell but thats another story) and Jones was a great bassplayer.
Zeppelins songs were original, witty, beautiful, magestic they fill you
with this great magic feeling when you listen to them. Creed will never
be as good as Zeppelin, never. I hope they never get good recognition.
Posted by
the Truth: Maybe Creed has confused themselves with
Creedence Clearwater Revival. They really do have some original classics,
and, oddly, their musical integrity compared to today's corporate post-rock
fodder.
Posted by
blue: oh yeah and e)did we all forget the original
classics that were all their own? Please lets not attack zep and take away
the important contributions they made for popular music AND 1 MORE THING
LITHIUM BLISS SHUT UP!!! what do you listen to?
Posted by
blue: yeah zep ripped off the blues by stealing
a few lines here and there but one thing you buttcracks aren't mentioning
is that a)they didn't sound anything like the originals b)jimmy page gave
them a life with those mindblowing riffs c)jones and bonham created one
mother of a sound to pull the whole thing together and d) robert plant
(the greatest throatplayer)took plain boring black and white blues songs
and gave them life and colour. Creed...are selling a lot of t shirts and
are nominated for awards in the same category as n sync. Everything is
completely different and therefore the two groups cannot be compared. I
get what stapp is trying to say but he should have considered a different
example
Posted by
is creed the next led zeppelin?: NO
Posted by
joen00b: Stapp can say all he wants, as long as
he gets his 'Jesus Christ Pose' for the new video, he is personally happy.
As for the band and the similarities to Led Zeppelin, I really don't see
them having as big of an impact as Zeppelin. Sure, they will sell lots
of records, and be very successful, but their target audience is women
in their early 20's. I see each of their albums becoming more and more
soft rock with some kind of morale message. Most of their new releases
are relegated to Adult Contemporary radio stations and the Rock radio Stations
have added My Own Prison back to the rotation. So, Zeppelin-like, not quite,
rich old men, most assuredly.
Posted by
milk is good: rotting tin of cottage cheese-now that;s
one i've nevr heard be4 creed aint that bad but but they have a loooooong
way be4 they earn the right to mention their name in the same sentence
as zep.thanx
Posted by
creed smells like a rotting tin of cottage cheese: HEY SCOTT, THINK BEFORE YOU SPEAK!
Posted by
ha!: no matter how popular creed becomes mr.stapp
has some ego to compare himself to the unparallel talent of led zeppelin.
And to the dude that says robert plant's voice sucks- suck mine too!
Posted by
cj: creed are not and will never be like zeppelin
but it's ok cause stapp didn't say they are...read it again bozos!!!
Posted by
moon: get over it. scott stapp didn't say "yes
world. worship us, for WE are the next Led Zeppelin." he simply made the
comment that they were in a similar situation. they don't suck; but if
you don't like em, more power to ya. and, about the antichrist, it is doubtful
that creed is the antichrist; there is no "cool" antichrist, anywhere.
the antichrist denies God. what is cool about that?
Posted by
Desdinova: Besides, Creed is regularly blown off
the stage by a band with only 2 surviving members, The Who (also a major
Zep influence.)
Posted by
Desdinova: Creed are the antichrist, not the cool
antichrist of Iron Maiden and Black Sabbath fame, but the real withering
death of guitar-bass-drums rock. Led Zeppelin were not afraid to draw on
influences such as Cream, Mayall, and Jeff Beck AT FIRST, but they were
already growing By LZ III. Cruud's last album was more bombastic whine-rock;
LZ III was half acoustic (the quoted reviewer was referring to one of 3
metallic songs on the LP, "Immigrant Song.") Creed may well last as long
as Zep has, but not because they're as good as Zeppelin, but because today's
whiny, overdramatic teeners think that they relate to Scott Stapp's crass
emotionalism and borderline-Pentecostal Christlike posing onstage. In times
of material comfort, excess sells. The only reason prog-rock went out in
the 70s was because young Brits were facing realities that included the
dole and rising unemployment. Until something major wakes them the f--k
up or something different (ala Nirvana) comes along, Creed will prosper,
only because they are dumbed down and corporate, just the way middle-American
teeners like their "rock".
Posted by
Olli: Led Zepellin are the band I mean THE band
of all time surely, so that doesn't mean that Creed aren't good if they
don't measure up. Listen to any band on their merits. The music is more
important than a bunch of windbags (oh... like me) I am in a new band called
ZOTHIQUE and we draw our influences largely from the Likes of Led Zeppelin,
not because we want to be derivative but because that is our fave kind.
If we wanted to sell records and nothing else we would write R'n'B and
get a bunch of beautiful kids to sing it for us. We, just like Creed want
to do what we want to do and guess what we dont give a s*** if 99.9% of
the world's population thinks we suck as long as the other half a million
buy our first album.
Posted by
rain: first of all I don't really care about
whatever Stapp said, he wasn't really comparing the sound of the bands
so that s fine, what I do care about are all the diot fans who elaborated
on that statement and ARE comparing the two's music. There is a HUGE difference,
people were turned off from Zepplin(in my opinion) because they had integrity
and were making something different, while critics hate creed because they
are doing something totally UNorigianl. I DO play giutar and you huge dumbass
who said the musicianship was just as good in Creed. People are fooling
themselves if they want to pretend that Creed are talented, morphing yourself
into a clone isn't talent. but hey, you can like them, everyone has their
own right to an opinion. Just don't fool yourself so to make your love
of cliche music. they lyrics sound and image are cliche and to me sickening.
There is great music out there today, there are bands/artists with integrity
and talent, they are just more difficult to find. Some people said there
wasn't any music left today that was original, well yeah maybe not on MTV,
SO STOP WATCHING IT! look somewhere else and you'd be surprised.
Posted by
The Jester: Just because Creed is despised by many
critics and music fans, and rightfully so, it doesn't excuse a comparison
to artists at the level of Led Zeppelin. I could care less about the apparent
similarity in the way their early work was received; so what? Good music
is about one thing: good music. Billions of pubescent girls buy records
such as Britney Spears, N Sync, and all that other crap on MTV, including
Creed. And rappers with egos ten times the size of their skills are millionaires.
Screw TRL; I'll listen to Carson when real art sells. Record sales and
talent have no real correlation, especially anymore. Creed makes multi-platinum
albums; good for them. If I could sell out to MTV and the rest of our musically
bankrupt generation, the lure of that success might be hard to resist.
But if I did, I certainly wouldn't try to maintain that I was something
I wasn't. Creed is nowhere near the level of Led Zeppelin and they probably
(at best) never will be.
Posted by
Scott: What a coincidence that the critic who
compared Creed to Led Zeppelin was from MTV.
Posted by
The Voice Of Reason: Creed? They were on MindlessTV the other
day! I rest my case.
Posted by
L: How this idiot has the audacity to compare
his band to Led Zeppelin is beyond me. In my opinion, Creed is worse than
the worst alternative bands of the 90's that it so unsuccessfully tries
to imitate. Led Zeppelin had an original sound. There will always be critics
who will claim that a band is copying another band who influenced it. However,
Creed's "sound" is not influenced by anyone. It is a horrible, whiny, pathetic
attempt to capitalize on something original (Nirvana, Pearl Jam) that took
place in the early 90's. This band is led by an egotistical, talentless
mannequin who is more interested in appearing tortured than really exploring
any true emotion. I do not foresee that this band will ever come up with
anything original or inspirational.
Posted by
Stapplets4Linzzz: My my my! Let me start off by saying that
I have been a serious Creed fan since I first started to get into music
3 years ago. I'm not a huge Zep follower the way I'm a follower of Creed,
but I know they are legends and I'm pretty into their music. I've read
and done research about them, as well. I was sooo gladd to read this article!I've
been saying this comparisson for about a year now, before I even knew that
Stapp had said it. Not once did Stapp or did I, say that Creed is better
then Zep or that they will take over or that they will surpass Zeppelin
in any way, shape or form. The comparisson, in both our cases, was meant
about the situations taht both bands aare.were put in with the critics
and "haters" as they are called. I fyou don't like Creed, that is just
great. I'm happy for you. Don't listen to them. Change the station when
they are played on the radio, or whatever you want to do. This is America
and you have the right to do that becasue we have the freedom of expression
and speech. But there is no denying, especially after this article, that
Creed and Zeppelin are in the same boats. No one liked either of them till
their 3rd and 4th album, and those who did like them before they were excepted
are the diehard fans taht will stick beside them whether they are liked
or not. And in this industry, that is what a band wants: to have their
creativity andtalent influence just a few people. If they reach more then
that, that is even better. It's always been about the music. And I must
say this... whoever said that Creed was pop music, you must be one of those
annoying people who never research anything before they say it... you know
the kind, the ones no one really listens to. My point? If youcan say that,
you must never have listened to anything that isn't played on the radio.
Creed has so much diversity packed into each CD. Weathered is the most
diverse though. If you think they are pop, listen to songs such as "Ode",
"Illusion" "Unforgiven" "Bullets" "Freedom Fighter" "Signs" "what If" and
"torn". That's some hard rock, my friend. No, it's not industrial noisy
crap, it's REAL hard rock, the kind that can push the limits, yet still
be musical! THE BEST KIND! Stapplets4Linzzz is my AOL screename, so if
you wanna argue more, then let's do it. I love a good debate, which is
why I love posting to these boards and why this is my favorite web site.
Talk to you guys later!
Posted by
itssomethingnew: Creed is Creed. Zeppelin is Zeppelin.
There is nothing I hate more than when people compare bands sounds to that
of other bands. They may be similar but no two bands are ever excactly
alike. To call creed the next Zeppelin makes no sense. Zeppelin already
happened. They were a brilliant band, they made rock history and influenced
many great rock acts but theres no telling whether creed will do the same.
Time is the test.
Posted by
Mr. huh? saying, "My Generation Sucks!": You idiot, you are. Or else why would
Creed try to cop your first album for their whole career.
Posted by
Pearl Jam: I wish we were as good a band as Creed.
Posted by
spunkava 656: stryder, what i was trying to say is that
to play the way led did with ALL their music at the same time together,
creates harmoney, and the sound is so good that it is sickening. Creed
is good, but won't ever be better than led. you don't need to play the
guitar to KNOW about music and sound. You gotta have a good ear, and that's
all you need. weather you play the guitar or not doesn't matter whatsover.
no offense, but it's true. a good ear is all it takes.
Posted by
stryder: Look guitarman2002, i know you're entitled
to your opinion but you don't need to know how to play the guitar to conclude
that page and tremonti are like night and day. All you need is a good pair
of ears. When i think of page the words versatility, genius and in a class
of his own come to mind. When i think of tremonti i think of repetition,
lack of creativity. Tremonti has his moments but he is NOTHING like page.
Sorry man but if you play the guitar you should be able to see that
Posted by
spunkava656: how can people compare these two groups
and critisize these groups????they are in two different time periods, with
different stles of music and writing. led zeppelin undoubtedly is the best
over creed, but you have to remember that rock does change over time, within
decades.not everyone is going to be like zep or creed, even in the next
10 years their will be more and more sh^t comming at us. creed is a good
rock band. they are solid, and they don't write about bulls^hit.zep is
the same. both are great, but i will say that noone will ever be able to
play the way zep did with their guitars, and all the other instruments.
it takes real talent to accomplish that. you gotta be real good.
Posted by
jayne: seeker, I said LED ZEPPELIN is the greatest
not creed or muhammed ali. DUMBASS!!
Posted by
the seeker: JAYNE!!--creed is not the greatest. muhammad
ali is the greatest. don't you watch boxing?
Posted by
the REAL God: creed is bad. very, very bad. blasphemous,
gluttonous, and loathsome. there shall be no place in heaven for them if
they don't change their ways. how's about looking up to heaven and praying
for some talent?
Posted by
fed up with posturing rock idiots: oh creed, tsk tsk tsk. you and your fans
shall soon join the ranks of britny fox, cinderella, nelson, ratt, faster
pussycat, etc. don't remember these bands kids? that's because these mediocre
"talents" were thankfully erased from our cultural landscape. creed shall
meet the same fate.
Posted by
guitarman2002: How can any of you not see the obvious
similarities. How can any of you call Mark Tremonti's playing elementary,
apparently none of you all play guitar. Anyone who doesn't see the similarities
between Mark and Jimmy page should be shot and never allowed to listen
to rock music or pick up a guitar because they are truly idiots and will
only disgrace the music if you don't agree with me mistaB784@netscape.net
Posted by
grangad: gotta agree with suki. yeah plant was
whiny at times but his voice is a f**cking original and it still blows
me away listening to it.
Posted by
suki: ROBERT PLANT DOESN'T HAVE A GOOD VOICE?????
WERE ALL YOU ASS WIPES DROPPED ON YOUR HEAD AT BIRTH. I WAS JUST ON SOME
WEBSITE RECENTLY AND PLANT WAS VOTED THE BEST ROCK VOCALIST OF ALL TIME.
IF YOU DON'T LIKE HIM PERSONALLY FINE...BUT DON'T SPEAK ON OTHER PEOPLES
BEHALF
Posted by
VAN ZEP: Look. To Compare Creed to Led Zeppelin
is to compare Limp Bizkit to Black Sabbath. Creed do not push themselves
musically or try to break out of this boring grunge rock that has been
festering on the music industry for the last 12 years. Led Zeppelin started
off a new musical style-hard rock- throughout each album they brought fresh,
new music to the world.Through Zeppelin's catalog you can hear folk rock,
blues, acid jazz, reggae, latin, acoustic music and even the earliest sounds
of heavy metal. How can any popular band today live with themselves knowing
that as long as they stay to the same basic sound and spend a lot of money
on film clips, plastic surgery and marketing, the cash will continue to
roll in from underdeveloped and gullible 16 year old's whose no.1 priority
is fitting in with 'the crowd' TAKE AWAY CORPARATE GREED(CREED) AND BRING
BACK MUSIC!
