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by antiGUY

Posted by Shaki:
Ok, I do NOT kknow what you all are making such a big deal about. I absolutly LOVE J.lo, face it, she's pretty, good singer, dancer, and actress. I think ya'll got a littel of the jelous bone here. I mean disagreeing with her is one thing, but totally bashing her like this, it's ridiculous! I mean, there are LOTS of different talents in this world, which is part of what makes us all different. So why don't you just face it! Just because you don't like her doesn't mean you have to say this kind of stuff. I think that it is a very good job to her and I give her credit for her fashion line. If you wanna see talent, you should ACTUALLY watch one of her movies, then see what you think. And if your still not satisfied, then keep it to yourself please. I really love J.lo in her video's, movies, music, and everything, and alot of other people do too. So please, in the future, don't write things about other types in bashing articles like this. There are ALOT of stars I don't like eg: Bif Naked, Fred Durst, Rob Zombie, Marilyn Mansion ect. But hey, I know that alot of other people like them, and I see no reason for them not to, because hey, there are alot of different tastes out there. So Ya'll love what you do, and I'll love what I do, and we'll keep this worl different! P.S. Why the hell would her coke line be flat!


Posted by AliceCooperette:
Gah. That's one of the things that I promised myself. Never sell out, never have kids, never turn into a fat old lady who watches soap operas. Contrary to popular beliefe, a person does *not* have to have an amazing voice to sound good on an album. Just as long as a "singer" can make some kind of vocal sound, there's a way to toutch it up and make it sound fantastic. I'm all for tweaking the small things, but when every single element somehow involved a computer or a synthesizer, that's just ridiculous. Plus, acts like Britney Spears manage to fool their fans into thinking they're getting a live show, when in fact, Britney Spears lip-synchs her "live" acts. Go figure.


Posted by Anti Prep Lord:
I was going to babble on about how talentless J-Lo is until I read some of the other peoples columns. Pinkas for instance. How dare you put Jimi Hendrix with Wu-Tang. Rap has turned into nothing more than mindless talking over a drum machine. Granted there were some actual creative rap groups (Public Enemy, A Tribe Called Quest, etc.). But seriously Pinkas. Comparing Pearl Jam's "Jeremy" to Wu-Tang's "Ni*** Muhh F*ck U 2" I mean come on kid. As for penelope, where has your mind gone? J-Lo is as talented as what? My breakfast Toaster Strudles? That's about it. There (as in "pop" stars) voices are MODIFIED. Meaning, changed to sound better. penelope, it's people like you that make me wonder how low we will go for "great" music. Don't get me wrong, I'm not some 45 year old loser living in that run-down garage apartment. Some of you have good points indeed. I give some credit to pick, aG, Max, JMoore10, and Frog. Once again though, I feel sorry for myself. I being born in that 84-88 time period ::sigh::. Hopefully things will change. I am done, enjoy.


Posted by Desdinova:
Geez, dude. If music has gone 100% to sh**, then why are you on a music website? I thought I was an anachronism for liking 8-tracks, you probably listen to Edison wax cylinders.


Posted by Desdinova:
Geez, dude. If music has gone 100% to sh**, then why are you on a music website. I thought I was an anachronism for liking 8-tracks, you probably listen to Edison wax cylinders.


Posted by antiPATHETIC continues:
The "rock-N-roll" that you called the "real" music of the heyday? Please! It was called RHYTHM&BLUES but was "too black" for mainstream society to stomach, so they bleached it and called it rock and roll. Even the word "rock and roll" is pop-culture fluff, it was originally southern slang for having sex, but it sounded wayyyyy "too cool" to not turn it into a commercial tool. And all the rock bands of the heavy 60s and 70s are considered the waered down version of roots rock - the Boy Bands of Rock and roll, no matter how "hard" they looked. If you own anything other then worn out 45’s of Lead Belly and other real architects of modern music, you’re as much a media "pop-culture" whore as your SUV-driving Soccer Moms driving lil’ Felicity to a BSB concert. All made b/c kids today get off on J-lo pencils the same way you got off on KISS lunchboxes. Get real. Music died a good century ago.


Posted by antiPATHETIC:
Wow, what a pathetic rant article. How were you able to squish really serious issues of world politics into some gay hissy-fit about "pop-culture," and further, how were able to be so inconsistent in the process? ELVIS PRESTLEY WAS AS MUCH corny pop-culture fluff as anything today. Half his music was bad country versions of hard core blues from the South, and most of those high folkies from the sixties were getting paid 5 times the amount of the original song writers singing the same song ORIGINALLY, simply b/c they had "cultural-mainstream appeal." If socio-political rights and politics were stepped on for the sake of mass commercial appeal, guess what?!? Pop-culture was BORN a massive vessel of SH*T! 


Posted by RailheaD:
You know, I was going to say something about this popstar boob, called `Jello' and then I had another thought: why am I wasting time talking about the turd? It's like the original article says, why waste our time on her? Why? 


Posted by Pinkas:
You cyber nerd critter, how dare you write such slander about the "Butt of the millenium". I love her videos, I watch them with the sound off. The music/ singing is no worse than all the other teen divas' stuff... but that ass!! That royal posterior makes me proud of being from the Bronx (I used to be from NY). Check out that derriere and get some hind sight. Trane, Monk, Hendrix, SRV, Aretha, Pearl Jam, Wu Tang, Neil Young are the sounds I mostly listen to but I ain't blind. Your friend Pinkas


Posted by 20, transsexual, san diego:
j.lo sucks! she cant sing, dance, or act! shes a jack of all trades, a master of none. and now shes got a new restaurant called madres in LA, and shes working on a tv show based loosely on her childhood in the bronx. good grief! and funny thing how her movies keep bombing yet studios pay her more and more money. un-f~cking-believable. whos C0CK is she sucking? and she made new music videos for her re-mix album. what a pathetic bitch.


Posted by snappy:
J.Lo can't sing and can't act. All image and no substance is not a good thing. She won't last long. She'll be history. Good riddance!


Posted by snappy:
J.Lo can't sing and can't act. All image and no substance is not a good thing. She won't last long. She'll be history. Good riddance!


Posted by JALOUS??:
what the hell is jalous? i hate when people coin new words. we have enough in this stupid language that aren't used properly. why make more? as for jennifer "that-ain't-a-can-it's-a-dumpster" lopez--oh geez! why? why do you folks support mediocrity and obesity? she's a hack that will be the BIG BUTT of our jokes in five years. she's acid-washed jeans, beanie-babies, parachute pants--a frekin' fad. save your money and wait for a better dog and pony show. Jlo is NOT okay. there is nnothing okay about the time and money wasted on her career when there's millions of talented struggling musicians out there with way more to say. death to commercial pop crap!!!


Posted by yeah!:
Duran Duran freakin rock, but JLo's ok. She not grade A, but at least she's gorgeous.


Posted by Mia:
I can agree with most of you that Jennifer Lopez lacks the talent of being a "grade A" actress of singer, and I too have had my moments of disbelief with how popular she is. But I can't deny the fact that she is a beautiful woman who has used her beauty and her talent for dancing (which we can't take away from her) to become the star she has become. Granted it may be short lived, but who are we to judge her? I don't believe she is trying to "scam" anyone to watch her movies or buy her music, people do it anyway. I have recently seen her on the cover of several magazines, and I can say she is not out of place their. She is a beautiful woman with a beautiful body and although that may be what made her famous, it is now her career and she is doing what she needs to do to keep it going. Those of us who are not famous work hard every day to excel in our jobs, get promoted and become recognized the only difference is we are not be scrutinized by the entire world as we do it. 


Posted by Kari:
I absolutely agree. She should not be famous


Posted by Dreamy Rover:
I listen to everything: Rock, Metal, Blues, Jazz, Gregorian Chants, Country, Electronica, New Age, Classical music & Pop too... I can appreciate only those artists & that music, that has something to say and requires at least some decent amount of talent to do instead of just banking on hype & marketing & catering of sheeps. Take DURAN DURAN, DEPECHE MODE, ROXETTE, MOBY etc etc. These guys do much better stuff than what u find on MTV. And we're talking about music here. Ok, J LO has money & is popular. Does it make her talented now? Just because she was successful with teenyboppers? She is not respected as a true artist by any serious music fans anywhere. And us poor folks (me's a guitarist) know much more about music than she does. Why bring money & fame? She's a talentless ugly hoog, no better than Shakira & Britney Spears & the whole dumb pop brigade. 


Posted by kat:
i agree that jennifer lopez has no talent. but regardless, she is richer and more famous than any of us will be someday. and i also believe that in order to love music. you have to learn to appreciate all kinds. even pop. 


Posted by yoda:
Hey J-Lo, you better not quit your day job.


Posted by yoda:
Hey J-Lo, you better not quit your day job.


Posted by Dreamy Rover:
J Lo sucks. Shakira sucks (check out that dumb song UNDERNEATH YOUR CLOTHES - some poetry). Pop sucks. Most pop stars don't know NOTHING about music. They don't write their own lyrics, compose their own tunes, play their own instruments. And I can't believe that there are so many idiots out there buying the crap on a regular basis. What J Lo? She wouldn't know if I put one of her own songs in tablature & gave it to her. And she's ugly. She's DAMN ugly. And if she's popular, she's rich, it's because there are fools & sheep out there in plenty. Pop is stupid music, no matter how much you howl and scream. It's commercial horse$#it & u're dumb enough to buy it, instead of listening to some really talented people who actually know something about music. And J LO is considered stupid by most serious music fans & people who have some artistic sensibility. U're ignorant, u're just a sheep. U're a self certified moron, DEFENDING J Lo instead of developing some taste in music. 


Posted by To Spike:
Actually, Shakira has been in the music industry since the early 90s, J-Ho has been in it since 1999. Before you talk, i suggest you do some reseach.


Posted by Spike:
Better to be a moron then a pop fan!!!


Posted by Lucy:
You are all a bunch of morons!


Posted by Spike:
How can J Lo be a Shakira wannabe if J.lo's been in the industry for longer than she has...or so I know. Oh yeah and that Jennifer girl could possible be the next Nickz Luv Gurl! I'm not jealous of J.Lo's money and famous statis. I just think she should give it up. She really sux and there's enough pop music out there. Pop fans really know little about music because pop isn't even music pop really stands for P.oor O.ld P.iss! 


Posted by pick:
By the way, I really wish people would learn how to spell. It's no wonder other countries laugh at our educational system.


Posted by pick:
Jenny's post doesn't even make sense. Not only does she know little about MUSIC but she can't even convey her ideals in a logical order or argument.


Posted by aG:
Sorry that was something called jalous not jealous. 


Posted by aG:
Laughing at Jenny's post. Lies? Jealous? Come on get some new arguements that you didn't hear on the school yard. 


Posted by Jenny:
so, you say you hate J.Lo? ok, then why do you waste your time by writing lies about her??? dude, you totally suck, you are really low. Try to reach what she has reached, and then say your oppinion. And somebody who spends that much time to J.Lo (you're not saying you wrote this text in 5 minutes, do you?) Must be jalous or loves her, but doesn't say it (all the macho things goin' on!). Well... I hope this thing doesn't get visitors because it totally sucks... me


Posted by killer52:
pop and rap suck 


Posted by Jmoore10:
Hey, no problem. Think I'll go check out the message board myself! Although its probably not too challenging to match wits with 10 year olds:D


Posted by "JMOORE10":
Hi, I like your comment and I have posted it on vh-1 j-lo message board. Hope thats ok with you. "jlo wannabe SHAKIRA"


Posted by Jmoore10:
It is so enlightening to see my exact feelings in writing-albeit more eloquently that I could put it! First and foremost-to all uneducated J-Low fans-Its not jealousy. Please, get a new argument-something with substance or clout (I'll wait while you look up the meaning)Its called taste-obviously something you do not possess. Yes, I envy certain rock stars: Sarah McLaughlin, Stevie Nicks, Tina Turner, Janet Jackson These ladies have vocal talent and musicianship-plus they are Gorgeous Women. They have also stood the test of time. J-Low make me ill-she has absolutely no vocal talent, or acting ability. Yes, somehow she is able to delude many people/sheep into buying her "music" or seeing her movies. However, none of them have any staying power-I think the Wedding Planner(never saw it)fell out of the top spot after 1 week-correct me if I'm wrong. I think my utter disgust with J-Low has to do with that lame nickname. I caught part of an interview on VH-1 where she was explaining how/why she changed her name: thefans gave her that name. She decided to use it an an homage to the fans. Funny part is that she pronounced it "o-maj" with a long "O" sound! The stupid moron couldn't even pronounce the word correctly. Honey, take some of that money and go back to school. Learn something so that you will not be reqiured to live off welfare once your 15 minutes are up! Clock's ticking!!!! 


Posted by j.lo is wannabe SHAKIRA :
jennifer you are the most pathetic puerto rican who cant speak proper spanish to walk this earth. there is light at the end of the tunnel for you, guess? your soon to become a vaporized wannabe pop singer. And you know what else? SHAKIRA is taking her time in demonstrating her unbelievable talent, and for this reason your rushing to sell and try to act because your time is running out. When that happens, I'll know God will have blessed you Until then I have to put up with your temporary existence. ANALII@EXCITE.COM


Posted by j.lo is wannabe SHAKIRA :
analii@excite.com jennifer you are the most pathetic puerto rican who cant speak proper spanish to walk this earth. there is light at the end of the tunnel for you, guess? your soon to become a vaporized wannabe pop singer. And you know what else? SHAKIRA is taking her time in demonstrating her unbelievable talent, and for this reason your rushing to sell and try to act because your time is running out. When that happens, I'll know God will have blessed you. 


Posted by Frog:
Well, 1st off, Penelope, you are sad! You have teenybopper written all over you! "shut up!you ugly!j.lo is the best!she got beter singging thn your stupid bands!she pretty! blah, blah blah!" Please note the typos were put there on purpose (you also need to learn to type and spell, moron). Seriously, you are sad. It would be different if you could at least defend your views intelligently and articulately, but you can't even do that simple task to a small degree. You just say J.Lo rules and everyone else is stupid and ugly. How old of a sheep are you? 8? And by the way, a "sheep" is someone who does whatever everyone else does. Interesting story regarding that: Nirvana was at 1st thinking of calling "Nevermind" "Sheep" because they were pissed at the whole Dessert Storm thing and how everyone followed that assh*le Sadam. Anyway, back to the point, Penelope, you'll have to do better than that if you want to convicnce me and anyone else with half a brain reading your comments that you're at least somewhat intelligent. Also, what are you from, the projects? Drop the ebonics, b*tch. (chuckle) Also, I agree pretty much all with "the voice of reason," and "The_T_Organization" I agree with mostly from what I read (what does the name stand for?). Pop sucks, MTV sucks, teenyboppers/sheep suck, and I wouldn't call J.Lo exactly "talented". I'm still reserving a little judgement. I haven't really seen her movies, though "The Wedding Planner" looked like a piece of sh*t. Her sining voice is actually decent, if it's real that is (not that I think it's not), but her songs blow. That duet with that fag Ja Rule (stupid name by the way) is total crap. So if she can in fact sing, she needs to sing better material, not just more sheep fodder; we have way too much as it is... She's a pretty hot chick, but what's that got to do with talent? Don't know anything about her clothes, but, hey, not surprised. If you can sell rap clothing, I'm sure you can sell her rags. But her new little a.k.a. is STUPID! Just stick with Jennifer Lopez, O.K.? Bad enough we have Kid Rock, P.Diddy, and Ice Cube. Well, I better stop before I condemn all the evil I observe. Oh, but I must give hats off to "The_T_Organization" for the "Generation C" wording. Very clever! Well done! If anyone agrees with what I have to say, let me know in their comments. DOWN WITH POP! DOWN WITH MTV! DOWN WITH TEENYBOPPERS!


Posted by GREENMUSE:
reading penelope's posts have opened my eyes,i will now go buy all of jennifer lopez's cds,and a few pairs of her trousers,then ill get two danish hams,and stick them in my underwear to get the proper shape to fill out the afore mentioned trousers.then ill do a duiet with ja rule(these days isnt everyone doing a song with him?)


Posted by pick:
And don't you ever, ever insult anyone's mother. That is hitting below the belt and remains uncalled for. If you can't think of anything creative to say go back and listen to your pre-fabricated pop.


Posted by pick:
Here we go again with that "J-Lo is the best because she's sold the most records." First of all, sales have nothing to do with greatness - just ask the Spice Girls. Second, J-Lo isn't the best...she doesn't sell the most records or have the highest-grossing films. And please, for the sake of sanity everywhere, Penelope, learn how to spell correctly or get the F out of our site.


Posted by jalous?:
typical of a j.ho fan - jalous what the hell is that?


Posted by Penelope. J-Lo the best:
j-lo shoot your head with her wonderful cd's (on the 6+j-lo) and is the living proof that latin music, r&b and hip hop are the best but youre jalous cause she dated the wonderful enrique iglesias and p.diddy, the best rapper in the planet. your ugly parents live in a slum and you suck with them which is very bad and j-lo is richer than you and the music you listen is disgusting garbage that comes from your mother nasty (childish name calling removed - user banned). j-lo doesnt care about you childish terible hate mail you jalous bogeyman. you are nothing and j-lo is the QUEEN


Posted by aG:
Lol Max! I think they call those retroactive abortions, murder. But if you're a rapper you might be able to get away with it. There is no use arguing with some people, just look at Penelope's last comment and the mentality behind it. Does it really matter what people like that think? I don't think so. But you are right to worry about them voting. Just look at the people in the last election that couldn't follow a simple arrow. Do we want them helping to decide the fate of the nation? Shutter! 


Posted by Max:
It would be nice to think that not all j.lo fans are retarded but judging by the pro-j.lo posts here that seems to be the case. Should we really care about the opinion of someone who can't complete one coherent thought(penelope)? Sales doesn't mean anything, more popular doesn't mean it is better, just marketed to the lowest common denominator, yes people like penelope, who I would guess is an avid TRL and sitcom watcher too. What scares me is these people will vote when they are older. Can we have retroactive abortions?


Posted by penelope:
you go put the finger in your mothers rancid (childish name calling removed - user banned)cat. j-lo is the best and sold more records than the crappy artists you love. shes the best, sings live and has beutiful melodies for everyone you 


Posted by The_T_Organization:
Damn Straight People love it! Go watch TRL O-u-No.


Posted by aG:
Penelope, keep deluding yourself. I can't help it you have no taste and are stupid enough to buy into the j.lo scam. We'll maybe when you turn 12 you'll get over it. 


Posted by Penelope, j-lo's number 1 fan:
you got no taste you dog. j-lo kiks you nasty but and her songs are beter than you ugly toad. she's the queen of pop and ain't it funny is the best song in the planet you jalous with noting in your head. shes the bomba latina and you are one big bomb who listen to bad music, drug adicts. j-lo breaks your head with her songs and films


Posted by ??:
It has nothing to do with race, it has everything to do with quality and musicianship. A song played by a computer with someone singing some catchy lines over doesn't measure up to a song played by real musicians that might not be as catchy but sounds a lot more honest! 


Posted by pick:
I don't much care for Sleater-Kinney. Zee, not ALL new music sucks but a good portion of it does. 


Posted by SubXavier:
Sleater-Kinney isn't exactly new... Time hailed them as "the new Nirvana" a few years back, and another magazine called them "the best band ever - more talented than the Beatles." I have yet to hear their stuff.


Posted by zee:
not all new music sucks. does anyone else like sleater-kinney? they're not incredibly famous but they aren't by any means un-heard of. and they rock. there are a lot of bands in that category. there will always be great bands just look for them you'll find them.


Posted by Mr. huh? saying, :
What's so bad about Michelle Branch? Anyway, this aG is right all the way. It seems like actual talent is a career suicide these days. With precious few exceptions, if one isn't some low-brow, stupid, shallow, generic, soulless music act, then all the radios, MTV's, VH1's, and record companies don't consider them to have "hit" potential. I have started listening to a lot of underground and alternative music these days from Phish, Aimee Mann, Bob Mould, Ike Reilly, Fugazi, and my personally favorite modern act, Days of the New. Days of the New is essentially a one-man act, Travis Meeks, whom was a post-grundge wannabe at first, but now is a musical genius. He's around the same age as Britney Spears, yet has more talent in his pinky fingernail than Britney has in her whole being. He earned it too. He spends so much of his time in his home, putting stuff together, when others would be doing photo shoots instead. There is some good mainstream stuff. U2, Dave Matthews Band, Train, Matchox 20, Lifehouse, Nine Days (so what if they're pop-rock. They still have good musicianship, thoughtful lyrics, meaningful messages, and some times you've gotta be happy). You want to know what's really funny about all this? The music industry is suffering a financial collapse...and claiming that internet piracy is the main culprit. Bono said it best, "When tape cassetes first came out, people said that they were destroying the music industry, when really it was just crap music that was destroying the music industry." Brilliantly said. The industry itself won't be around for much longer though. Aimee Mann and husband, Michael Penn have started something called United Musicians which allows independant artists to pay an initial fee for distribution of their albums, plus a percentage based on sales, for promotion and publicity. It's basically the same as the music industry except that the artist has full copyright control of their music and has a greater revenue from each album sold. It's what the industry should have been, but was too greedy and corrupt to be. Spread the word.


Posted by pick:
I don't know. My brother is 16 and I've got him hooked on Ozzy and Led Zeppelin. True, he and his friends like Linkin Park and P.O.D., but I would much rather someone listen to those bands than Michelle Branch or BBMak.


Posted by the voice of reason:
It's not getting worse, not getting better. man, 95 percent of all music has always been crap. did you guys forget the osmonds? jan and dean, rick Nelson? the EIGHTIES for christ's sake? it was always sh!te. and don't tell me that ooh now their selling out. the osmonds sold lunchboxes. just be thankful that they don't make good artists sell products, back then they made Louis Armstrong peddle campbells soup.


Posted by o-u-no:
Man everything thing changes, im sure even your thoughts about this little thing you wrote here, nothing stays the same and you should know that. Hey if you dont like the music scene the way it is now, go and start your own band. She's gotta be doing something right dont you think, shoot she's even got you thinking about her, even if it is in a negitive way. But every man is intitled to his opinion. You know what you should do, yes you, go to one of her shows and get up on stage with her and then start with all of your crap, see how people will just LOVE you. It's real easy to talk behind someones back expecially if they arn't around. Well good luck with your NEW BAND, I hope EVERYONE likes you, expecially because you know how everything should be run.


Posted by The_T_Organization:
The whole pop thing has gone way too far! I have been a fan of music (like everyone)for quite some time. There has always been something going on that has turned me to it. And for the first time in my life, I am repelled, apalled and disgusted by what I see in music today. So much mindless crap and garbage. It's wonder that there isn't a sole entity on this planet who hasn't given into it. Even the military has take to MTV to spread their message to recruit future corpses. The fact teenagers nowadays will listen to anything that someone who looks remotely "cool" will tell them. It's mind control all over again. Tell them what's hip and trendy , what's fashionable, and who to listen to for their entires meaningless lives. Molding an army of little kids who will serve no purpose in life other that to purchase American Eagle clothes and Nelly Furtado CD's. Basically, anybody who was born between 1984-1988 is screwed to live this horrible existence. Now it may be cruel that I say this, there are some of those who have strayed away form the mainstream and I commend their efforts, but it only takes a matter of seconds these days for underground culture to become mall culture. And everyone will agree, nothing is sacred. MTV, sorry, Viacom has hijacked all of the tresured aspects of youth culture and subcultures. Skateboarding, Hardcore punk, turntablism, moshpits, all have been chewed up and dpit out by this. The point is Generation C (Consumer) must be nuked back to the Junior Highschools and f*cking school dances in which they belong.


Posted by The_T_Organization:
In the future, there will only be two big record labels. All legitimate talent that enters these labels' waters will sink to their incorrigible levels. Face it. Everyone will be doing McDonalds commercials some time along the line.And F*ck J.Lo! The only reason she even is even receiving any high accolades is because she is prime whackoff material. That ass is money in the bank. The clothing line,the music, the movies, the endorsements for Versace and whatnot. She is the bloodsucking corporate hatemonger's wet dream!


Posted by Gemi:
HAHAHA. I completely agree. I think my a$$ is twice the size of j-lo's. She could use some singing, dancing, and don't forget acting lessons. She's too stiff when she dances; it's gross. I have nothing else to say. Her performance says it all. Ugh.


Posted by j.lo porno chick:
As I said before jennifer needs another job and thats the porn business to make you guys happy


Posted by J.LO is copying SHAKIRA'S STYLE:
my e-mail is: analii@excite.com if someone feels their feelings were hurt by my comment


Posted by J.LO is copying SHAKIRA'S STYLE:
GAWD! I hate jennifer lopez sooooo much. My aggravation will soon pass with SHAKIRA'S presence to toss jennifer lopez to the curve. i hate jennifer lopez. she's a mindless unimaginative and common looking wannabe black talking hispanic.


Posted by zee:
dicha de lithium - no importa que ella es fea, si puede cantar, pero NO PUEDE. ugghhh... that b1tch annoys the he11 out of me!


Posted by please:
jennifer lopez does not have a ass,lil kim got booty, beyonce got booty, j-lo got a but but ain't got ass-gimmie a break


Posted by The Razorgrin:
I have to admit, I laughed a lot reading all this. I couldn't agree more with Mssr. AntiGUY. There's little else to say, but 'thank you, AntiGUY!'


Posted by pick:
Sorry, that was supposed to be "the point I was trying to make." Whoops!


Posted by pick:
Thanks, Max. That was the point I was trying to point. Did anybody watch the Bill O'Reilly special on trash culture? If Fox ever repeats it I highly suggest everyone watch it...it gives excellent insight into today's pop culture.


Posted by LithiumBliss:
Cool! About time a racist got banned. I hope you whacked that guy in the Cornell/Rage thread who was dropping the N-bomb all over too. PEACE


Posted by Ryan:
racist message deleted user IP banned. 


Posted by Max:
Ryan take your politically correct crap and stick it you know where. I agree that there is something wrong with glorifying a lifestyle that PROMOTED drug abuse, PROMOTES sexism, PROMOTES murder. Is that racist? I guess it is if you think ALL people of a certain ethnic persuasian act like that, which they don't. It's only a small minority that does and they do their race a dis-service but promoting that kind of life style! Plus you can't call that processed crap they label R&B today, real R&B, it's garbage! 


Posted by pick:
Ryan, my post is in no way racist or prejudiced. It's an observation, and I'm not the only person who feels this way. 


Posted by dicha de lithium:
J-Lo es muy fea y tiene nalgas muy gordas, y no se puede cantar para mierda, pero hay MUCHAS boricuas bonitas en el mundo. No soy racista. Yo creo todas las personas son iguales, excepto el cabron se llama bin Laden. 


Posted by SubXavier:
Shakira used to be good. In Spanish.


Posted by aG:
OB1, Pick and ?? - thanks for the backup guys, at least I know some people understand where I was coming from. I'm grateful there are other people out there who are concerned with keep it real and want their music to have some integrity! kudos to you guys! 


Posted by OB1:
to bebe0690, if you every read this know that you really don't have a clue wot the hell this guy is trying to say you fool. He is basically taking J.lo to explain his point on how the music industry is turning to custard. In some ways he is right. Can you honestly say that the groups nowadays are going to survive the mark like such greats as Beatles, mowtown, Bee gees Aerosmith etc etc.........Hell no. you can't compare, music was rugged and raw, where a live gig was the only way to really get your music across. I understand anti-guy where your thorts are coming from, I guess you can only do so much with talk. Maybe if action was taken to get the real talent out there , there would be no need for discussion.


Posted by pick:
By the way, J-Lo is not a good actor. Critic after critic have panned her work, and if anyone knows anything about movies that person realizes how bad of an actor J-Lo really is. You don't have to have talent to make money - just look at Britney or Shakira. As for getting what someone wants, the only reason for her success is related to her ill-fated relations with P. Diddy and her looks. PERIOD!


Posted by pick:
I consider music a big part of my life. Granted, I am not a musician or singer but I take my music seriously. For someone to attack me and fellow fans is silly. I enjoy good debates on music because it shows that people have the smarts to give reasoning behind their statements. Beba's passage, though, contains no substance. It's more of a rant than a rationalization. aG wrote one hell of and article: it's well constructed, well-written and well-thought. You may not like the subject but don't rip the author.


Posted by zee:
beba- why is it that if someone doesn't like j. lo, because she doesn't deserve the fame she has, that automatically makes them jealous? i mean sure i would love to have the money and influence she has so maybe that means i'm jealous. but that would make me "jealous" of a LOT of people, because a lot of people have that kind of money, and most of them are not the people that are getting trashed here. that comes not from jealousy but from annoyance - we're SICK of seeing her face everywhere and would like her to shut up. however! to be fair, it isn't actually her fault. she wanted the money and the fame and realized that what she is doing now, rather than acquiring real talent would be the quickest way to get to it. rather than despising her for getting fame however she could. why not be angry at the pathetically tasteless and mentally underdeveloped majority of the people who made it possible for her to get rich that way.


Posted by ??:
beba you have to come up with real arguements to defend your opinion instead of just calling someone names who disagrees with you. As for the finding God comment you followed it with calling him a loser now that wasn't a very Christian statement now was it? I'll play along and agree someone needs to get a life, that is you! You honestly can defend this joke of a celeb J.Lo? Ever hear of the casting couch? I assume that was how she got her record deal because it sure wasn't her voice. I agree with AG I wish the music companies would start putting out better music than this garbage and all the other pop trash that has no real substance and won't stand the test of time and only serves to make record company fat cats rich off of gullable minded comsumers. 


Posted by aG:
Oh geez here we go again with this "You're Just Jealous" crap, how are these 12 yearolds finding this article? Like I said before "hater" is just a term that talentless hack throw around to describe people who have enough taste and brains to see through their shallow marketing plans.. aka music. go on and delude yourself, but you are the sucker that's making j.lo rich and I will continue to point out that stupidity, it has nothing to do with being "jealous" or a "hater" it has everything to do with demanding quality from the record companies instead of second rate Tiffany's! 


Posted by beba0690:
ok, so you are a pathetic hateful, enviuos person that can't appreciate talent when you see it! so what, jennifer lopez doesn't have the greatest voice, but she is a talented person who knows what she wants and goes all out to get it! she is beautiful, has a bomb body, she can dance, she can sing, she does martial arts and has mad style, so what's your problem? (besides the fact that you are jealous)if you really hate her that much, then cool, that's your choice, but why go and trash her? no one said that you have to buy her music, or clothes or even see her movies, just go about your own business and let her go on with hers. there is no reason for all this hatred! there are so many more important things that you can be debating and talking about. from what i see, the only one that is lacking anything here is you antiguy! you're lacking a freaking life! obviously you have nothing interesting enough in your life that you gotta go trashing others! you're probably an old fat a$$ perv, that can't get any play so therfore you choose to hate on powerful, successful women! i think you are a pathetic excuse for a human being! you need to find god ( or a past time ) loser! anyways, more props to j lo and all you boricuas out there, we're coming up baby!


Posted by 5 Against One:
Try some of the bands on the Sub-Pop label, I've found some gems.


Posted by zee:
So much of the music today is lousy. Pretty much any band with any kind of popularity just sucks. Even the rock bands. Especially the rock bands, maybe, because it's very depressing that with a legacy of rock and roll from the Beatles, to Nirvana, Aerosmith, etc., this is the best they can do. (I'm not saying there isn't still a lot of good underground rock. I'm just saying most of what's known as rock is lousy.) Pop stars have nothing to live up to, so they're not letting anybody down; they're just annoying. It's most idiotic the way people seem to think that a pretty face, curvy body and dance moves can add up to musical talent. But if people want to listen to cr@p like that how are you gonna stop them? Well... You could take an ax to their stereo systems and set fire to all of their CD's, for starters...


Posted by cake:
Easy solution to this issue: Kill all pop stars/teen idols that presently influence the shallowminded. Then who will they follow?...Wait, nevermind, then they'd just elect another mindless, talentless, and mercilessly stupid self-inflicted messiah to follow around like the MTV-sucking sheep they are. Woohoo. The spiral continues.


Posted by 5 Against One:
Carson Daly must be destroyed...Carson Daly must be destroyed...Carson daly must be destroyed...


Posted by Repo Man:
I can't agree more. Jennifer Lopez is so horrible. Can anyone get a recording contrct these days? I listen to here pathetic attempts at street lingo (bling bling and all that crap) and wonder what it is that my fellow Americans find so appealing about her. I think Carson Daly may very well be the new Jimmy Jones or David Koresh.


Posted by 5 Against One:
J.Lo gets more ink for her posterior than anything else. If the size of one's backside is now the yardstick for talent then Rosie O'Donnell will be getting a Grammy next year.


Posted by Dreamy Rover:
Yeah. And for all the pop stars who're even writing their own songs and lyrics, it still doesn't come as a worthwhile effort. BRITNEY & NSYNC claim to have contributed to the writing process on their recent albums. BIG DEAL! It's all still very immature & I don't see ANY musicianship in their works. Writing sappy nursery rhymes kind of stuff is not the kind of music I want to listen to...yeah, J LO & others of the teen pop brigade are just product merchandise... there's nothing musically artistic about any of those morons...nothing original too... garbage of our modern civilization. 


Posted by pick:
Thanks, huh, for the support. Props to aG for the product analysis. If JLo actually wrote her own music and songs then I would respect her. However, I cannot, under any circumstance, respect anyone who does not write his or her own music. A cover song is one thing; hiring someone to compose music and pen lyrics is quite another.


Posted by Mr. huh? saying, "My Generation Sucks!":
I think Pick said it best when he claimed that parents are very worried about their children turning out to be normal. It seems that in today's music world, you've got either two choices, J-Lo and Britney Spears or Slipknot. And with Slipknot's equally stupid and morally bankrupt "People=Sh*t" and lyrics like "I wanna slit your throat and f*ck the wound", would you want your kid listening to that crap. Slipknot are just as empty and shallow as J-Lo, except that J-Lo has positive messages in her music at least. I'd rather have kids taught love (even if it isn't with much depth), rather than hatred and degradation. Honestly, Slipknot are a disgrace to rock music. How did rock go from profound statements like "All You Need is Love" to "People=Sh*t" 


Posted by aG:
Hater? That's a copout losers like Fred Durst and Missy Elliot use when people call them on being talentless hacks. Hey if you are stupid enough to buy this bill of goods she is selling more power to you. Like I said there is a sucker born every day. As for using the "jealous" accusation (I think that's what you were saying when you wrote jeolousy), I didn't know anyone over the age of 13 bought into that concept. Guess that kind of thinking effects more than prepubescent boyband fans. No need for scapegoats when you have easy targets like j.lo around. Face it she is a product and you are buying it. Don't worry other people have been suckered in by the same thing, true most of them are too young to know any better but rest assured you are not alone. (better watch out what you "hear" on the radio from now on) 


Posted by Guz magna:
Dude u sound like a hater, find another scapegoat, i mean let J.lo do her thing, if people are buying her prouducts, she must be doing something right,at lest she is contributing something to soceity. In a harmless way, i think that if people are stupid enuf to buy every thing she puts out, thats on them we aint buying it for them you know.Dude i just think you should of gave her props for everything she has acomplished, and i hope she acomplishes more. she is a good singer, actress, and i also think she can be very good at any thing she puts her mind in.but But i see theres people that feed in the, i guess you can say jeolousy (thats how i see it) and choose to be on the side that doesn't apreciate her. But like most everything in this world there is allways two sides, some even more. And you are not in the one that apreciates her. And thats o.k, with out these sides the world wouldn't go round.I dont own her cds, i here her in the radio most times i listen to her. I am not a big fan, but i just think she is a nice artist ( if i may call her that) well bye-------ONE LOVE------------


Posted by Forrest Gabitsch:
J-Lo was a teenage prostitute. Ah, just kidding. (???) Way to channel Bill Hicks there, antiGUY.


Posted by Josey Wales:
You forgot to mention that this shallow bitch dated a well know record producer (although I don't listen to his "sampled crap")to get her "pop" career started, once she got it established she broke up with him ..does anyone out there think that she would have dated him regardless?..not me..


Posted by LadyMuck:
What's wrong with our schools today if these people use grammar like THAT??? Here's a clue guys, if you can't understand your own ramblings, don't post for the rest of us to say "What the HELL" to.


Posted by SubXavier:
And I'm sure you know what that's like.


Posted by anonymous:
you know what, ok pop music is crap but there are more important things in the world than worrying about whether britney or jlo are sluts. big deal try living in a third world country with no democracy


Posted by SubXavier:
Haha... the juxtaposition of Inperson and Kyle is great...


Posted by kyle:
I would love to fill her a$$ with my c0ck. she is sexy and i like wanking over her. She has good tits nice a$$ and an amazing c#nt, i'd like to fill or lick. I'd love her to give me a blow job. She can't sing but some vids show shes a great:f#@cker, sucker 


Posted by kyle:
I would love to fill her a$$ with my c0ck. she is sexy and i like wanking over her. She has good tits nice a$$ and an amazing c#nt, i'd like to fill or lick. I'd love her to give me a blow job 


Posted by inperson:
i believe too many sorry music and not the best in music today.i tell u the 70's and 80's are real type of music.u know creed can't play tune all they do same tune over over and over. they don't nothin about real music anymore.jlo think she god and dont worship her u be big trouble for this.turn away to turn to God the father in heaven and blessing son Jesus.i agree with you.


Posted by GPA:
The funny things about all this is that in 20 years No One will remember the name of any of her songs. Yet 99% of the people I have talked to can spout off several names of Hendrix, Zep and Clapton. So there is is some hope for this land of ours. The pop plague will too pass and with any luck so real talent will riase to the top. I am worried about the Aerosmith machine however. There edge has dulled and the soft pop side is showing. God just isn't fair. If he was then N-sync and the backstreet boys would be dead and Stevie Ray Vaughan would still be with us.


Posted by BK:
I agree,Greenmuse. J Lo just seems like she would have this attitude that I don't think I could tolerate. As for Sarah Jessica Parker,I did like "Honeymoon In Vegas" and "L.A. Story" but those were mainly because I'm a fan of Nicolas Cage and Steve Martin's work. I can't really think of any other movies with her I liked though. I just don't think she's horrible looking.


Posted by GREENMUSE:
im a pretty big fan of the heinys,but its not like a prerequisite or anything for me.im odd in that ways as i dont really have a "type"i like em all.but jennifer lopez does nothing for me.she just seems like she wouldnt be pleasant to be around.hoog,thats a nifty word.and i also agree with trendkills sarah jessica parker comment,which it could have to do with the fact i really hated everything ive ever seen her in.


Posted by Loki:
i like clean, strawberry smelling butt. i dont like jlo's butt. its too big to sit on my face. ehhea


Posted by Loki:
i like clean, strawberry smelling butt. i dont like jlo's butt. its to big to sit on my face. ehhea


Posted by Trendkill138:
I like big butts, and I cannot lie...

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