He tells Metal Wani: "The goal is never to shock everyone. The goal is to keep it interesting for us to still make music. We listen to a lot of different stuff and get inspiration from different corners.

"Sometimes we have an idea for a song before the song itself exists. We'll say, 'Let's have a song that feels and talks to you like this' and we try and write it. It's not just five riffs we put together.