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Why Motley Crue May (AGAIN) Save Rock n' Roll

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They're back....  No, not the ghosts from Poltergeist, but the most entertaining and theatrical live rock band of the last 30 years.  Their songs are pretty cool too.  In 1981, when Nikki Sixx had the bright idea to take 1970s rock theatrics in the vein of Kiss and Alice Cooper, the punk-pop sensibility of bands like the Ramones, and a blonde singer set against a dark, visual backdrop, Motley Crue reinvented and revitalized America Rock n' Roll scene and started the 1980s multi-platinum, pop-metal scene.  No one denies or disputes this.  Then, in 1997, after selling 35 million records, firing and rehiring the aforementioned blonde singer, they reclaimed Rock n' Roll's throne by going out on tour in the dead of winter when no one else had the balls.  Once they proved there still was an audience for true hard rock, thanks in large part to reconnecting with much of their core fan base through the internet, scoring a top-10 debut for their comeback album, Generation Swine- which went Gold when most of the like-genre bands were on CMC International and Cleopatra Records, lucky to scan 10,000 copies of any new album- the Crue's success as the # 7 most successful tour of 1997 reignited the live hair-metal touring circuit, bringing bands like Poison and Cinderella out of the woodwork, and launching a new generation of rock bands like Buck Cherry, as well as fueling the success of the rap-rock genre.  In 2001, the band- while on hiatus- put out what became the best-selling hard rock authorized autobiography in history, and just last December, out of the blue, did it again by announcing a reunion tour which quickly became the best-selling rock-concert tour of the millennium.  Selling out Madison Square Garden in 3 minutes, and starting a grass-roots campaign to bring the band to second-tier markets, Motley Crue's 'Better Live Than Dead' even grabbed Pollstar's number one slot for two weeks.  Oh yeah, and their third Greatest Hits compilation, ˜Red, White and Crue', scored another top 10 debut on Billboard's Top 200 Album Chart, selling upward of 90,000 copies in its first week, and proving that Motley Crue had a whole new generation of fans waiting to embrace them. 

Irrefutably the Led Zeppelin of their generation in terms of longevity, Motley Crue is a strange breed of cat in that they are so hard to categorize.  They changed their visual presentation with every new album in the 1980s, and in the process, set every one of rock n' roll's next popular trends, from Too Fast for Love all the way through Dr. Feelgood.  Over the entirety of their career, Crue remained a punk-band at heart in that they never did anything on terms other than their own- a case in point being in the early 1990s when, after firing Vince, the band hired an unknown singer and became an alternative rock band for what most core fans agree was their most musically sophisticated album with John Corabi.  By the time the band had racked up 40 million records sold and left their contract with Elektra Records in 1999- with full ownership of their entire master catalog, a first for any rock n' roll band dating back to the Beatles and before- they were truly masters of their own universe of rock n' roll.  The bottom line is that no matter how much the establishment has tried to make it cool to hate Motley Crue, as they successfully did with Poison, the latter band only survived the backlash in the late 1990s and early millennium because Motley made it cool to hate the establishment right back.  Nikki Sixx is hard rock's emblematic MIDDLE FINGER, and we all raised it up in 1999- giving Poison their first platinum album in 10 years when the band's greatest hits album went platinum thanks to the comeback Motley launched.  Not to mention a second chance to most every hair metal band from the 1980s who had any remote form of success between 1981 and 1992, be it via b-list package tours like ˜Rock Never Stops',  or Cleopatra, Versailles or Spitfire Records tribute albums.  In one way or another, they all owe a thank you to Motley Crue, and most are happy to give it.  In vitually every one of Metal Sludge's 20 Questions with an 80s singer or guitar player of note, when Nikki Sixx comes up in the word association, he's given nothing but glowing accolade and praise, sometimes outright verbal worship.  Tommy Lee has remained a highly visible celebrity in his own right, and has- as a result of his Motley following- released two highly successful solo albums.  His latest solo album, just completed and as yet untitled, is scheduled to ship GOLD if all goes through with an exclusive distribution deal negotiated with Walmart.  What's cool about Motley's latest resurgence is that no one's fucking with it, its cool this time, no one at MTV or K-ROCK is trying to start retarded anti-Motley campaigns.  How can you hate a band who has influenced almost every new platinum rock band of the last 10 years, from Blink 182 to Hoobastank to Jet and The Killers.  None of the aforementioned would refute it, they proudly admit it.  Even Jessica Simpson showed up at an awards show recently sporting a nicely snug Motley Crue t-shirt.  Good for her. 

As an author of several books with or on band members from the band, one on Nikki Sixx, a Rock Producers' anthology entitled ˜Behind the Boards', the first Volume of which is due in May, and features exclusive interviews with Tommy Lee and Scott Humphrey (who in addition to producing all of Tommy's solo stuff, also produced the band's 1997 Generation Swine album), Tom Werman (who produced Shout at the Devil, Theatre of Pain, and Girls, Girls, Girls), and James Michael (who regularly co-writes with Nikki Sixx), and a third book I'm finishing currently with former singer John Corabi, I consider it a privilege to be involved with any opportunity to celebrate Motley Crue's legacy.  If you have the opportunity to go out and buy the aforementioned books (which of course I'd not mind, :-), or The DIRT, or Tommyland, or Nikki's forthcoming book, The Heroine Diaries, you will be reading on one of Rock n' Roll's most important musical legacies, one that is just beginning to be properly recognized, acknowledged and celebrated generationally.  Motley Crue deserve it, and its no coincidence that they become eligible for induction into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame next year after 25 years in the business. How much money you wanna bet they'll get in?  Even if its begrudgingly, their historical and modern relevance cannot be denied, especially after the success of their latest tour.  Whether its a farewell tour or not, I hope every one of us goes at least once, or twice, or three times to see this amazing rock band remind the world what a dead-of-winter, pot-smoke filled, nose-bleed seat arena show is all about.  If I end up with nosebleed seats at any of the shows I'm going to see, I'll be fucking happy, and you know why?  Because it will mean I'm sitting there because there were NO OTHER SEATS available, because the show is sold out, because my favorite band is getting the props they deserve.  With thousands of fans bringing their kids to shows, seeing Motley Crue is finally a family affair, and for most of us fans who've grown up with the band, its more like a family reunion. 
 
 

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About the author: Jake Brown is owner/operator of Nashville-based Versailles Records and a biographer who has published several books. Click here to more details
 

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Posted by Stevie:
They use to rock. Not much any more.


Posted by The Boss:
Are you ****ing gay Richard? The Crue ****in ROCK. Go listen to pissy Backstreet Boys you dweeb! Actually you are a Dick! Once a dick, always love dick.


Posted by Richard Howson:
Many bands rock but bands that rock cock will forever go down with me as being the best ever.


Posted by Snoz:
They rock your tits off!


Posted by honest:
Walked out of the Vancouver show at half time. It was OK but not great. The band is pretty weak really and the show mediocre. The fire was cool but also make the arena about 35 degrees. Had enough after the first set.


Posted by Andrea:
Motley Crue are...and always will be AWESOME!


Posted by JAKE:
Motley Crue sucks


Posted by Don'tBeStupid:
"Motley's latest- AND THIRD- greatest hits compilation just went platinum" I.e., they are a nostalgia act. See you at the state fair, guys.


Posted by Crue Went Platinum:
Red, White and Crue just went Platinum, clowns! To all you naysayers, Motley's latest- AND THIRD- greatest hits compilation just went platinum, which means Butch and all like him can crawl back under whatever rock they came out from, and bow down!


Posted by Don'tBeStupid:
The thing about Motley Crue is that they have to be one of the most derivative bands in a sea of ripoffs. Not like the usual thing where you hear a familiar-sounding riff, or "this sounds like AC/DC" -- Motley Crue would steal an entire song -- verse, chorus, bridge, everything -- and just repackage it. Listen to "Fight for Your Rights," for example, and it's obvious that they literally put "Balls to the Wall" on the stereo and went through the entire song piece by piece to change the riff just a little, the verses just a little, the chorus, the bridge, put different words on it and call it their song.


Posted by BUTCH:
i'll beat hell out of all ya.--run into me on the steet and they'll pull you out of the gutter. minus 20 pints of blood. crue fags...worthless crue fags BARF SPIT PUKE+


Posted by Crap:
lol Butch,you can't resist or you've been taking forever to think of a word to verse my nick?i can't blame you for being such a stupid fag.oh,why don't you little kiddy rapper,just step aside and go listen to your collection of boybands and dumb rappers?why don't you demo on the sulfuric acid thingy too?geez,probably you can just pour it where your mom spreaded her legs for the public.i knew your mom was a whore,don't put the tab on me.im sorry both of your parents are male and you're adopted from the drainage.i bet from what you've been stating,it's the reflection of yourself,well whatever.


Posted by Crue Fan:
I'd SO LOVE to run into Butch on the street... I'll say no more.


Posted by BUTCH:
TAKE THAT SCOTT SLAPP


Posted by BUTCH:
"sh!thead" for all you kuntholewarttwits who have nothing better to attack except a brother's grammer and spelling. sh!thead! sh!thead sh!thead.


Posted by BUTCH:
yeah, fukko, i got a damn tip fer ya non-sarcastic arse. drench your ugly mug with sulfuric acid.--your blackheads, whiteheads, zits and pimples will cease to exist. then you can suck off cruehead and use his slime to reduce the burning. sh!thed.


Posted by ACNE BOY:
hey do you guys have any tips for getting rid of acne im relly having a problem.


Posted by BUTCH:
your passive-aggresive neutrality is fukking stupid. if you dont care dont post. idiot!


Posted by Dont Care:
I enjoy Motley Crue, i dont care if people hate em or like em since it dont phase me on where i stand on my liking of the group. i just find it pathetic that one person tells another that their taste in music sucks. Seems that person just knows there taste isnt as big


Posted by BUTCH:
(rimshot) yes, sir.


Posted by steve:
And #1 on the Billboard top 200 is 50 Cent. What is your point?


Posted by To all dissing on Motley:
Motley's 'Red, White and Crue' album jumps from #46 to #35 on the Billboard Top 200 Album chart this week...


Posted by BUTCH:
...oh, and crap (i cant resist) why dont you change your name to "carp". so your name will describe the smell coming from the crotch of yer whore mother.--i bet vince neil's sweat smells like dead and rotten carp. I'm sure Tommy lee's knob releases nothing but sardine juice. Nikki Sixx...well, you know, he sticks dead carp in his arse and leaves 'em there until his anus turns raw and bloody. and its well documented that mick mars then eats the carp that nikki sixx finally takes out of his arse. hell, i'm just gonna start calling them Motley Carp.---xoxo love, BUTCH


Posted by BUTCH:
fight fight fight


Posted by the beaner:
F*** you "the dictator" you're a fag just admit it motley SUCKS BIG! ok just shut up.


Posted by im da P.I.M.P.:
SHUT UP! all of you, you're all my hoe's so yeah, if you gotta talk sh** than do it im right here so i my good friends my used chemical and the antagonistand i must admit that motley crue does SUCK big time! i feel sorry for all you people who followed motley since the 80's you guys had your life wasted on "THAT"


Posted by Crap:
so just go f*ck yourself and do your chicken sh!t boyband thing or hip-hop crap,you freaking loser ass butch,you should change ur name to bi-tch


Posted by BUTCH:
no


Posted by Mediator:
Can't we all just...get along?


Posted by BUTCH:
bands are for kunts, crap.


Posted by Crap:
yea,maybe some of us here had been talking crap about certain artists,but still swinging to their grooves.yea butch,its all crap,and you're in it too,dumbass.you've been postin and getting yourself involved.so lets die along in the abortion blood?aww butch,we know you couldnt get a band of your own,or get a half of being like the crue.


Posted by ??:
PS Why do I suspect that this is a joke article like one of those Dolly things?


Posted by ??:
I guess The Backstreet Boys, Eminem, Limp Bizkit and Britney Spears are all majorly credible because they sell big. I mean using Crap's logic. See what happened is the rejects from the 80s are trying to relive their glory day with this sad tour. Happens every five years. The Crue were a joke in the 80s and they are a bigger joke now. They were a trend chasing chick band and sounds like Nikki still is too. If you like the Crue, more power to you but please don't even begin to think of them as credible on even half the level as Led Zeppelin. Butch thanks for the lyrics, it's always good to remember why I always thought these guys were a joke (aside from their trend following music in the 80s, silly videos, and sillier personalities).


Posted by BUTCH:
yeah, crap, its all crap. so are you and so is the crue. die in abortion blood


Posted by Crap:
if they ain't good,they wouldn't be selling-out arenas.how many crappy bands you have that would sell-out?like your britney crap?or your dumb@$$ 2cents rapper?in another 10years,all these haters would be saying "Nirvana sucks" just like now.you think the world gives a sh!t about the few jealous haters over here.to hell with grunge,everyone used to say Pearl Jam kicks, what about now? Dumb boring band who is unoriginal?i saw some dumbf#ck stating Pearl Jam ripped Nirvana? Nirvana sucked balls anyway.they cant seem to stop complaining about how much they hated their fame,rite? Well f*ck ur mom and stop making music,get out of the industry and stop grabbing headlines! You’re telling everyone that these bunch of hypocrites rocks?


Posted by BUTCH:
look, diktaker, i'd love to take turns tossing insults back and forth but the very fact that you're defending one of the worst groups of kunts who ever got together and made noise since cavemen started banging on their cave walls while shouting, grunting and moaning makes me fukkin laugh too hard. so shut up and fukk off and MAYBE i'll share my milk and cookies with you.


Posted by the dictator:
Butch appears to be, well, BUTCH! I would venture a guess that all of the losers posting ignorant comments about the Crue are all about fourteen years of age. Time for bed, kiddies. Your mom will bring in your milk and cookies. After that, you can steal your dad's porno magazine and a bottle of lotion. What a bunch of moronic idiots. You would not know talent, dedication, and longevity if it smacked you in the head.


Posted by the dictator:
The Crue is back, and better than ever! They deserve everything good coming their way. They have left an indelible mark on rock and roll. Every single member of the Crue are talented beyond belief. I am ecstatic that they are being recognized in 2005. I will continue to support the band as I have done since 1983.


Posted by the antagonist:
man butch you write too muck but i love it well yeah i agree with my used chemical because they suck and vince is such a pig he drinks too much and now he looks like s... whatta damn loser it seems to me that motley crue is the worst band ever they had to kill it.


Posted by BUTCH:
oh, ryan, don't forget the facelift, the queer eye-ish make over (hair-cut and dye job, work out routine, new clothes etc), and the stint on the surreal life. "carnival of sin"? give me a break!-----WAIT A FUKKIN MINUTE!, i'm having a vision, i can see it now...i can just see the updated version of vh1's behind the music feat. motely crue...imagine this..the stupid behind the music voice intones, "in 2005 Vince and the boys tried to give it another try. make over's, a hundred city tour, loyal fans and all their cliched debauchery. they even released a single, 'if i should die tomorrow.' the song met miserable reviews and was ignored. the song's title proved to be prophetic. On the evening of april 12, after the band had competed a lackluster concert at omaha's qwest center, the band boarded their private 2 engine cessna (that previously had been used for transporting chickens in the orient) on their way to oklahona city. in mid-flight vince had been suffering from sever-depression and diareha. Reports from the only survivor of the crash RODNEY buttwipe are as follows (cut to shot of rodney buttwpie-missing teeth, mullet, unwashed Big Johnson shirt) Rodney Buttwipe: "well, vince, wuz all pizzed of' 'n upset dat he had becum 'n ol' hasbin...'n he wuz wearin' dem diaper's at da time..."depends" is wut dey's called. um...vince, wus crappin' hisself and he wus just upset. i saw him..he done went up to the c0ckpit, hit the pilot on da head, knocked him out, and crashed the plane into a manure field. i saw's it. and there ain't a day dat goes by..i don't..think..about...i ain't ...ican't talk, surry." (back to vhi guys voice) Rodney's account of what happened is astounding. Vince crashed the tour plane and killed the entire band because he had a poo-poo problem. The day the bad music died.-------not a sermon, just a thought.


Posted by Ryan:
Motley Crue used a song that CANADIAN POP PUNK BAND "A Simple Plan" wrote and Nikki changed the title to "If I Die Tomarrow". Yeah... real hardcore metal guys. Almost as hardcore as Vince's liposuction make over on VH1.


Posted by Andrea:
Motley Crue is...and always will be awesome!


Posted by my used chemical:
are you kidding me this band sucks they're the worst band ever. you shouldn't waste money on their stuff it's CRAP!


Posted by LithiumBliss:
Look, the Crue is what it is, but please don't bring up how much they sell in claiming them to be great. Ashlee Simpson sells, does that mean she's any good? The Crue were a fairly decent late 80s metal band, they were way better than Poison or Winger, but they were what they were. They are no better than they were then just because they have a new tour going on now. Hell, I guess they ran out of money and need to tour to afford the coke and hos they have grown accustomed to. If they can do it, more power to them, but count me out. And the only reason Nirvana petered out after 3 albums is because Kurt got killed. I'm sure he had more music in him, and he had more talent in his friggin left pinky than Neil, Sixx, and Mars ever had in their whole bodies.


Posted by BUTCH:
c----maybe by rejumping the shark they can reverse to previous effects of already having jumped the shark.


Posted by dreibel:
pop quiz time: what is the weakest, wimpiest rushing onstage stunt? a) Rob Halford making a killer entrance onstage at a Judas Priest concert on a Harley-Davidson, b) Freddie Mercury rushing onstage in an exhilerating explosion of stage lights, pyro and killer electric guitar, or c) Tommy Lee riding a midget onto the set of Regis and Kelly? If you answered c), you're right - the only thing that would've made it even more embarrassing would be Tommy trying the jump a shark tank with the midget! Oh, sorry, I forgot, the Crue jumped the shark a long time ago.....


Posted by BUTCH:
haha, you dumba$$ cruefukkers tickle my pickle. but you extra-chromosone havin', bed-wettin', genital scabs eatin', fukkwits shouldn't get so angry. fukk no. not when you/we have the great works of motley crew. here, why don't we have another motley sing-a-long. "ten seconds to love" is another one of my favorites. this clever little ditty was obviously written by someone whose IQ is less than his pre-lyposuctioned waist size, sing aloud if ya know the words "here i come/my mind is set/get ready for love/you're my ten second pet--touch my gun/but don't pull my trigger/lets make history in the elevator/or lock the door/shine my pistol some more/here i cum/just ten seconds more" everybody now, sing the chorus "ten seconds to love/ten seconds to love/pull my trigger/my guns loaded with your love/ten seconds to love/ten seconds to love/just wait honey/till i tell the boys about you..." there. now don't you c0cklickers feel better now? well, im gonna go now. i gotta shampoo my dog. fukk the crue and fukk you too. LOVE, BUTCH


Posted by Hans und Franz:
listen to me tomorrow und believe me next Thursday, puny little Motley girly-men - you think you're so tough, when in reality we could knock you over with the wind from flexing our little pinkies. Ve vill crush your heads like walnuts with the toned muscles on our glutes. Udo Dirkscheneider iss our favorite non-Ahnohld entertainer, he eats makeup wearing, fishnet stocking wearing, hockey stick headstock weilding nancy-boys like Crue and Poison and their fans for breakfast und uses their bones for toothpicks!


Posted by TO RYAN:
ΏListen Nirvana? Please, 3 records, 3 tours and...nothing more, nevermind is bored, Listen the beginning of Dr Feelgood and you will know who rocks!!! Kurt is Dead but Vince still rocks on your face!!! 25 years of Rock And Roll with Motley!! and Ώ4? of Nirvana...Dont put the name of Nirvana with others like Led, Motley....think about it


Posted by Ryan p.s.:
SS is right.


Posted by Ryan:
NO NO NO! Motley Crue is not "The Led Zeppelin of our generation in terms of longevity...". Don't we all remember why Nirvana was so revolutionary?! Because hair metal and pointy guitars are as cool as being diagnosed with a terminal illness. Don't kiss these old farts a$$es because Tommy's nu metal band f*cking sucks, Nikki is dying of bordom raising kids and Mick has arthridis. Do I really gotta slam Viney DoughBoy? All in all, listen to Led Zeppelin. Listen to Nirvana. Listen to Iggy Pop The Stooges. But not the Crue. They stand for everything rock is against (and don't gimmie that whole: "The 80s were excess dude!") but ripping off KISS. Cause if it wern't for Nirvana, you might be wearing really tight jeans and mascara while sporting a mullet right now.


Posted by SS:
Steve, I think you are wrong. They are different people, they just share the same brain. I find it really funny that fans of a band that pranced around in more lip-stick and ladies underwear than a Victoria Secret Catalog shoot have the balls to call other people gay. Spew isn't even worthy to lick Queen's boots. I have to laugh at these nerds in woman's underwear everytime I see them. But the only thing funnier is seeing people try and defend them. BTW nothing says rock cred than appearing on Regis and Kathy Lee. Motley Crue has about as much musical credibility as a boyband. I give them a little more credit for playing instruments but the music is just as stupid. I wish Crue fans and the band would take their own advise. Don't go away mad, just go away.


Posted by Andrea:
Motley Crue ROCKS!! I dont care what anyone says!


Posted by sassie:
To all you rejects that don't like the Crue, you know where you can all go. I have been listening to the Crue for along time. If it was not for their come back we would have that dam rap crap. When you nasty guys talk crap about Vince Neil what's the matter you all jealous that you can't look that awesome. Vince will always look good no matter what age he is and that is a fact.


Posted by Steve:
Halfway through all those pro-Motley Crue comments I realized that all (or a good deal) of them had been written by the same person. The spelling/grammar mistakes are all the same, as is each one's general tone. So, in other words, a couple of anonymous comments bashing your favourite band - and I reiterate, they are the worst kind of musical garbage - made you type out ten or so lengthy diatribes about these posters' sexual preference and try and pass them off as being by Motley Crue's "enormous fanbase"? Pathetic.


Posted by poop:
To all you Crue haters out there: Obviously there is some tension between you and motley crue. Maybe you are pissed off cuz your gf flashed vince neil at a concert. Maybe you tried wearing make up to high school one day in a lame attempt to be like them and you were made fun of, or even beat up. Whatever the reason(s) are, its pointless to bash the crue fans and try to ruin their good time. Its possible that alot of you haters dont actually HATE their music or the band, but maybe just hold a grudge cuz your heroes overlooked your "town". Hey, maybe they just didnt see it on the map. Maybe they thought they were doing you a favor cuz their ticket prices were more than your monthly property payment to the landlord. And to all of you fellow Crue heads out there: keep on living under the power lines! Apparently we dont know how lucky we are... and to LithiumBliss: on your comment about queers/asking vince bout jail... Vince Neil never was in jail moron, just someone from your family said they screwed him, doesnt necesarilly mean it was in jail. But seriously there must be something eating at you ppl inside cuz other wise u wouldnt waste ur time on talkin $hit about Motley Crue


Posted by Zane:
God put me in my place. I even like Motley Crue.


Posted by The Bottom Line:
Crue Shatters Doubts With Hot Tour By Ray Waddell, Nashville MOTLEY CRUE Motley Crue will end up playing well over 100 dates in 2005, surprising many in the industry. Nine shows into a 50-date North American tour, the Crue is doing sell-out or near-sell-out business. And the band is set to announce another 57 shows in North America, with Europe sandwiched between. The first U.S. leg wraps May 1. The band will then hit Europe before picking up again in North America July 26 for a run until mid-October, under the "Carnival of Sin" tour banner. For the first month of the summer run, Crue will join several other hard-rock bands for a package bill, including Sum 41 and the Exies in select cities. Summer shows will play a mixture of arenas and amphitheaters. Following the North American dates, the Crue will play Southeast Asia, Australia and Japan. Managed by Allen Kovac at Tenth Street Entertainment and booked by Dennis Arfa and Pete Papalardo at Artists Group International, the tour and its success and magnitude caught many in the business off-guard. "This tour was not only great for Motley Crue but, as the first major tour of 2005, it's great for the business," says Papalardo, "especially with everyone coming off such a horrific year." Promoters for Crue include AEG Live, Clear Channel Entertainment, Jack Utsick Presents, and Frank Brothers, as well as in-house arena promoters. Of the latter, Kovac says, "It was the buildings who funded and helped make this happen when the promoters wouldn't step up."


Posted by WWTCD/FTW:
First let me say this: my Credentals, I've worked in the music industry on and off for 20 years. Worked for hung out with met people of all music types. Second What in the hell does Freddie Mecury or Rob have to do with the crue?? Un intellegent comparison of different music types. Third: When The Crueand Maiden and Priest and Ratt and Jovi and Ozzy and the rest of the 80's 90's music was in its so called "hey day" The Younger generation was into rock and it was main stream. Your Now generation of boring same ol same ol music let Garbage non instrument playing RAP become what every young person wants to hear. This makes me sick Your Idols are gun slinging thugs. Thanks Kurt nice job !! Motley Crues recent state after state sold out concerts will speak for themselves.The Country is starving for a real Rock and Roll show. Where you at least get something for your 100.00 4th: Lets get a list of what you haters like and listen to,we'll see where your favs are in 20+ years. Tupac?? Biggie?? Nirvina?? STP?? Blind Melon??odb?? The Only Sustaining memorable band so far for the post metal era is Green Day good rock band boring vocals but good. Who else ?? I cant think of any that sell out Places like the Garden on a regular basis. Vince sounds GREAT after all thsi time and he can still hit the notes Whinning or not Vince is Vince he is a great singer sorry na sayers. Nice Story Jake us fans and im sure the Crue agree with ya.As or the rest well ya'll got your opinions keep supporting your dark music and the 50 cents of the world will stay at the top WWTCD/FTW


Posted by dreibel:
and to add to this - you know that a Crue fan is losing an argument when he starts questioning sexual preferences. What's really funny is that Freddie Mercury and Rob Halford have way more singing talent and cojones than squealy ol' Vince Neal. (Oh, and another fact - Freddie was BI. Ever see pictures of his girlfriend Mary Austin, she was hot). Chew on that, knuckle-draggers. (For the record, I'm het). Also for the record, I'm not ALL metel, I also listen to jazz, I love blues, think the Ramones were true innovators, and I thought Nirvana gave rock n' roll a HUGE kick in the behind (oh, now the Crue fans will REALLY start foaming at the mouth. And GSBDB, the Crue fan threatened me, so I gave them some facts about myself to make them think twice.


Posted by LithiumBliss:
Funny how the Crue lovers are calling all of us who don;t like Crue a bunch of queers. Ask Vince how he liked jail, I bet that pretty boy loved it.


Posted by Mad Motley Mother F*cker:
To all the Crue bashers......nevermind....not gonna waste my breath on u.


Posted by God, again:
Lithium,B!tch, they almost sucked as hard as Kurt sucked on that Shotgun, huh? Judging by the concert sales, they're exploding like his head did. Isnt it past your bedtime. By the way I do agree with Dead Dog, like who you want, I had to get the hating out of my system, these ignorant fools piss me off sometimes. You don't like dont go. Its that simple. Save your money for the already has-been Kid Rock. He'll be on the fair circiut this summer with Eddie Money. Thats it, for real. I'm Done.


Posted by God, So Bow Down Bitches:
Let me start with this Dreibel idiot. The only way Queen or Queer, as I call them, got all their masters was by Freddy sucking off the record companies, but who gives a f@ck about that anyway. Big Barney Badass truck unloader that listens to a group called Queen. They must call you Princess. And who's talking about fighting, we're talking about music, stupid. You wanna fight, find a partner to roll around with at your local hole bar, you know you'll be there anyway. And go crank your Judas Priest, you probably crank yourself while you do, more fruits. Get down with your bad self, tough-guy. Now as for Butch, you're called Butch and you listen to the Pixies, where the hell do you people come from, Fairy Land. Yeah, and you brought your life partner Zane, who can stick his sentimental reasons up his pixie ass. Ask Princess for help if you need to. He could sing you some Elton John while he's doing it. Oh yeah, and uh...Butch, Bob Rock, who produced Simple Plan (who sucks anyway), told them while recording that I.I.D.T. would be perfect for M.C., they didn't scrap it. Nikki taylored it to the Crue. As for Billboard, who cares? If you knew anything about the music industry, you'd know that bands make most their money from touring and merch. Motley's estimated earnings for this tour is over $100 million adding to what they still had. Not every 80's band went broke.How much you gonna make? That's what I thought so...go lay down, boy! Hey Out In The Cold, you and your HomoHobo, need come in from the cold. Guess what F#ckbags, Motley Crue is selling out arenas all over the world. So much that they have to keep adding to the tour. The only ones beating a dead horse, seems to be the small minded inbreds bashing Motley Crue. I think you're all just lonely people, bitter by the fact that well, into their 40's, Motley Crue is still turning down more pussy than you ever had. Or is it maybe that they've turned you down? You know what I do find quite funny though, other than how stupid you guys are, is the fact that not only are you quoting Motley's lyrics, but you also seem to know a whole lot about them not only professionally but personally, too. I always find out everything I can about the bands I hate too. Especially their soong lyrics. And Princess you're 45 years old and you have nothing better to do than post stuff about a band and it's fans, neither of which would give a runny sh!t if you fell off the planet tomorrow, through the safety of a computer screen ofcourse. I would seriously love to be the one to knock the alternative lifestyle out of you. And Steve, you're probably feeling left out aren't you, well your comments, they just don't compete. So just crawl back into your mobile home, and go f@ck your brother some more till you can hang a little better. Chump!


Posted by LithiumBliss:
They sucked the first time around, and they suck even harder now.


Posted by Dead_Dog_Fukker:
It's sad to see people arguing over music. To each his own. Just 'cuz i happen to think Usher is puss i realize that millions like that sh!t. The dude who likes QUEEN and Judas Priest is obviously not into "girls,girls,girls" so move on. The Ramones might not have been the most technically sound band, and not everyones cup o' tea, but they are Legends despite what some may think. Same with the crue. like what you wanna like, ignore what you don't. It's a big world, short life, don't waste it haitin'. Maybe all the people selling out the crue shows are "suckers" but i wouldn't be suprised if motley is still around another ten years. a_mllx@hotmail.com


Posted by joey naples:
i wish tommy would.... me inthe ass.


Posted by Mr__Crue_2u:
To all of you Crue bashers. Eat $hit and die. When the c*ck sucking bands that you listen to sell 40 million records, get back to me. Until then, shut the f*ck up. You've got nothing. Long live the Crue mother f*ckers.


Posted by skygunn:
hey butch is that your nick name because your a big bad bull d#ke that unloads trucks for min. wage? your a real bad a** internet tough guy/girl? i would love to run up against you i install granit pal 6'2 225 chopper riding crue rockin butchy whooping bad mutha fu*ker! so step on up junior! as far as the crue goes the show sales speak for themselves they are smoking all the so called popular main stream bands selling out bigger arenas! sorry if your still mad about boy georges career tanking, ya need to get over it. you crue bashers are living proof that brothers and sister should not breed. so while im rockin at the crue show enjoy your quiet evening at home whacking off to internet porn, you are truly pathetic.


Posted by bowjunkie:
What a bunch of dicks you Crue bashers! But you know what it sounds like to me? A ton of f*ckin jealousy! Now, to some of your comments. Steve- were you around in 81' and 82'?? Record company hype??? I hardly think so!! I was there nd I tell you what, the only hype that was put out was by the band and people were hungry for it and jumped on it! Butch - Your just f*ckin jealous because you probably couldn't write a lyric to save your ass, loser! Oh, and another thing Butch. As far as fighting goes, Nikki would kick your ass all over this board, but you know what?? He lets me take care of his lightwork!!!! And Driebel, no one claimed that Motley were the best musicians in the world, including them. What you are playing is high school crap! Grow up!! Christ, just because you probably couldn't lick the sweat off of Micks balls, you don't have to bag on him cuz your jealous man. Do you really think that Mick cares where he shows up on some poll conducted by loser idiots like you who have nothing better to do with their time other than bag on someone who is successful? I feel sorry for you man! You live in a van down by the river don't you?


Posted by CRUE:
The Crue is the greatest rock and roll band of all time. Their music speaks for itself, but their lives add to it. They by all means ARE rock n roll. Everything about them is rock n roll. So if you don't like the Crue, you don't like rock n roll. And if you don't like rock n roll, than I say FUKK YOU! Go listen to Nirvana or U2 and fukk yourselves!


Posted by Kage:
Seems like those of you who have nothing good to say about the Crue are suffering from diarrhea of the mind, and constipation of thoughts. Rant and rave all ya want, it's still crap to me. Talk about getting out of the 80's? you people still live in it with all your passed feed back. Were in 2005 now, with Motley, where are you? Fighting a lost cause. To sum it up After reading your anti Motley Crue rants, I've decided I am in favor of abortion in cases of incest. Next time when ya shave, just please be sure to stand closer to the razor, because whatever is eating you must be suffering horribly. Motley Rules, you can suck it and smile.


Posted by Andrea:
I dont care about anything negative that people say about the Crue. They sold out arenas all over the U.S. and that right there says their fans are still behind them. That is what counts, not some person's opinion who doesn't even like them. Motley Crue aren't touring for those people, their touring for us, their fans. Maybe they wanted money, so what..who doesnt? Of course some of you guys dont like them, big f*cking deal! There are tons of bands I hate, I dont waste my time posting on a website about it. Motley Crue is still around and Crue-haters aren't going to change that! So, f*ck em! We know that they rock! That's all that matters.


Posted by Time:
Time


Posted by MotleyRebel:
I think that Crue's ticket sales will speak loudly about whether they are good or not. besides the good thing about music is that there is all kinds for all kinds of people. If you dont like a certain band, then dont waste your time listening to them. But why bad mouth them? Im sure Motley crue is not sitting around their computer and posting negative crap about you guys. Actually they are really cool guys and have alot of respect for their fans.


Posted by Mick:
What's sad about all of you Motley Crue haters is the following: you were all the BIGGEST fans of bands like Poison and Warrant in the 80s, and you're embarrased by it now, and fear that by endorsing Motley's comeback, you are somehow endorsing that of any of the aforementioned hair bands. Motley was not a hair band, they evolved quickly out of and beyond that- and that's why they're still around, and doing so f*#king well. Period. Its just impossible to argue with the logic. On that basis, why don't you just relax, we all have no idea who you are in real life- the Crue Haters- but like any good church- this one worshiping Rock n' Roll- we're willing to forgive you. Come on home little puppies and hang out with hard rock's BIG DOG- Motley f*@#ing Crue!!!


Posted by BUTCH:
settle down, dreibel. dont waste energy on a cruehead----the pixies could get away with vomitting into the mic and walking off stage. wherease, motley crue would just be doing shtick. know?


Posted by dreibel:
your source is wrong - my source, Queen's official biography, says they OWN their entire back catalogue and lease it out to different record companies across the world - Hollywood for North America, EMI/Parlophone for the UK and Europe. Hollywood DOES NOT "own" Queen's catalogue. And as for your assessment of me, I'm 45 years old and a fan of "old school" metal - I also do stuff like unpack trucks for a living, so you and your wasted Crue buddies should think twice about challenging me to a fight. By the way, I'm listening to _Angel Of Retribution_ as I type this - and Judas Priest are the real metal deal, compared to the Crue, who are low grade tinfoil in comparison.


Posted by Zane:
When I was a kid, Motley Crue was great. Now that I'm older, some songs make me cringe. For sentimental reasons, I'm always up for a money grubbing reunion tour though. If the Pixies can get away with it, anybody should be able to.


Posted by steve:
Here's a head-scratcher for you: If Cruehead's parents got divorced, would they still be brother and sister?


Posted by BUTCH:
so you wanna fight? are you gonna ride your motorcycle and bring a switchblade knife? put a handfull of grease in you hair to make you feel right? i'll knock your teeth out.--- "crue" and "head" are not two words you should put together, fukko. "motley c0cksucker" suits you better.---i'm your frankenstein. haha


Posted by Cruehead:
dreibel and bitch- Hey dickheads, Queen did NOT leave with their catalog, Hollywood Records bought it out. My source is the former president. As far as all of your anti-Motley speak, obviously you are one of these grunge-era pussies who hates the establishment, system, etc etc and identifies Motley as some sort of mainstream saturation, etc... Why don't you come up with something original for a self-identity, rather than plagerising Eddie Vedder's? I bet you worship guys like Ward Churchill. You're both pieces of Sh*t! Ignorant ones at that. They are playing one county fair. EVERY other date is an ARENA, and they are all SOLD OUT DATES, in both A and B markets, so I guess 15,000 people a night times 50 US dates means you're insulting 6,000,000 people. Why don't you drop me a line sometime, and I'll meet you both in person and kick your p@ssy asses! Punk bitches! I'll bring a few Crueheads along to help me out. Sissies.


Posted by rite:
you call your freaking hip-hop as music?learn music?since when was hip-hop music?it sounded more like talking.i don't give a damn about Crue or whatever.it's just they could survive so long


Posted by rite:
you call your freaking hip-hop as music?learn music?since when hip-hop was music?i sounded more like talking.i don't give a damn about Crue or whatever.it's just they could survive so long


Posted by The Evil Mr Grog:
What the Darkness??? Now that's Hair Metal.


Posted by dreibel:
oh, and the lyrics to "Girls Girls Girls" - don't they look like Nikki cribbed and slightly modified them from Elton John's vastly superior "Saturday Night's Alright For Fighting", which swaggers while the Crue meekly hopscotches....


Posted by dreibel:
I'm laughing so hard as I'm typing this, Dude, I cried, dude! But now for some facts: the Crue wasn't the first band to leave a contract with their entire back catalogue: that honour belongs to Queen, in 1990. And regarding _Red White And Crue_, while it did well in its first week, it's since sunk like a stone on Billboard. And I wouldn't call any release that features a song not written by them but by an emo band (Simple Plan) who didn't think it was good enough for their own album a "success" (even Tommy is on record as hating it). And besides, with this week's release of _Angel Of Retribution_, Judas Priest stomps on anything the Crue has produced in their entire career. Mick still shows up on "Worst Guitarist EVER" polls (to be fair, Mick's been admitting that he's not the world's greatest guitarist and has his limits, so props to him for his honesty), Vince still can't sing....I can go on, but I'm afraid I'm going to wear through this keyboard.


Posted by A Tribe Called Quest:
Yeah, we're dumbass hip hoppers. Learn something about music.


Posted by steve:
Hah. Lost in the accolades about "SAVING ROCK N ROLL!!" is the fact that Motley Crue's music is completely, utterly worthless. It's funny when you refer to them as a "punk" band giving the middle finger to the "establishment" when you're talking about a group that was about as "punk" as Nickelback. Seriously, not being able to see through record company hype at the time is bad, not being able to see through it 25 years down the road is unforgivable.


Posted by BUTCH:
motley crue will be saving RnR at your local county fair. admission is $15 and that gets you a ticket to the show, a ride on the tilt-a-whirl, and a funnel cake. you can gawk at vince's face lift, admire the 45 year old, overwieght, blonde women in spandex as they relive their days as crue groupies. you can play "count the herpes" on tommy lee's slong. you can play "pay or don't pay the palimony suit, whatever you may have said before" with mick mars. you can tell nikki stixx to quit trying so hard. then there's "the music". all paying patrons will be invited to sing along (with help from a teleprompter) to such "classic" songs as "girls girls girls"--"friday night and i need a fight/my motorcycle and a switchblade knife/handful of grease in my hair feels right/but what i need to make me feel tight are GIRLS GIRLS GIRLS...red lips fingertips" (i think that was written by a 15 year old fukkwit who watched too many 50's movies) or the immortal "dr feelgood"--"rat-tailed jimmy is second hand hood/he deals out in hollywood/got a '65 chevy, primered flames/traded for some powdered goods...he's the one they call dr. feelgood//he's the one who makes ya feel alright/he's gonna be your frankenstein"...oh, please! this band is worthless. they were worthless in the 80's and now they are not only worthless. but worthless and unimportant. but, hey, to each their own...


Posted by Shut Up:
why don't you two get out of the way of rock and go back to your hip-hop or bubblegum-pop musics?go listen to yuor britney or whoever.yeah,there's a sucker born every minute and that's those dumbass hiphoppers or those justin-like.


Posted by Out in the Cold:
I got nothing against the Crue, I saw them many times back in the day and still listen to the first two albums regulary, but come on....they didn't save R-n-R in 1997, they just foisted Hair metal on a whole new unsuspecting generation. And you wonder why hair metal and the 80's in general are reviled by so many, I'll tell ya - cause it just won't go away! And now Motley Crue is doing it again...if this is saving R-n-R, then I say let it die, and be reborn into something new and fresh and vibrant! Not some tired old rehash of some other more tired old rehash. Granted, they have the right to make money and if there are people willing to spend the money to see the "spectacle" that I suspect this tour will be or become by summers end, then let it be, but lets call it what it is - a money grab to help replenish the bank accounts of those members of the band who obviously need it! BTW pointing out that the new Hits album scanned 90,000 units does not indicate " a whole new generation of fans waiting to embrace them", it simply, and pathetically proves the old P.T. Barnum quote" There is a sucker born every minute"! Go away Motley Crue, stop beating a dead horse for Chrissakes!


Posted by Hobo:
I'm with you. Fvck Motley and hair metal.



Posted by stunned:
jesus christ, who are you people that enjoy motley crue? do you all live under power lines or something?







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