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This Months Top 5 ways to tell if a band has sold out
Lately I have seen the words sell out attributed to bands more and more frequently. Our good friend Dr. Fever made  that point to me a couple weeks ago and it got me thinking. What makes a band a sell out? Is there a difference between growing musically and selling out? People do change over time. Were the Beatles sell outs? Please Please me and Across the Universe don't even sound like they were recorded by same band, so did they sell out? Hell no! 

Yes there is a difference between maturing musically and selling out. Bands have to evolve or they become boring, they also have the natural tendency to try new things. However, when a band changes with the sole aim of selling more cd's or concert tickets, that my friend is a sell out.  Now take a look at my list of the top 5 ways to tell if a band has sold out.

Top 5 ways to tell if a band has sold out.

5. They start listening to the record company execs ( or Carson Daly) when they talk about focus groups and demographics.

4. They think Carson Daly is cool.

3. They radically change their style in hopes of appealing to a wider audience (and Carson Daly). 

2. Their ultimate goal is to be number one on TRL (with Carson Daly) 

And the number one way to tell if a band has sold out...

They have Carson Daly on their speed dial. 


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Fan Speak:

Posted by holooman:
i think it s not the irt should go like this so belive that its not tem pora ary think for the music thasi si what sholud done. **** love love is the reallliuty of the truth **** all mothere ****er craps .


Posted by dead man:
undertaker is the man!!! LONG LIVE THE DEAD PEACE


Posted by someone:
Y do u not like Carson daly? Whats your problem?


Posted by GRIMLOCK:
All you guys are stupid, all music on TV and commercial radio is manufactured specifically for your demographic, for example "I like Manson because I'm a non-conformist" That's exactly the kind of person he was targeting, the angsty disenfranchized youth, you're all corporate fuk toys.


Posted by sarahjk24@aol.com:
when an artist goes from one style to another [ex] liz phair can it get any worse


Posted by Druid:
The term "icon" makes them wet...and they start grooving to an Avril version of one of their tunes.


Posted by Diane:
5 writing alternate clean versions of songs for trl play 4 rewriting the same hit song over and over again 3 writing lame mass-appeal music to begin with 2 performing/cowriting songs with Diane Warren or Max Martin 1 licensing music for commercials (I don't care if it's a new band or an established artist that doesn't fit the TRL mold, it sucks!)


Posted by tripper:
i think any band dat dosent write there own music are sell outs


Posted by Ravinb:
Ashes,u are smart,stay that way...cool


Posted by yesmistress:
No one can sell out if they have no ideals or morals to begin with.


Posted by slimbrady:
hey i think you r all blown away by the main mans style and i jus wanna say one thing ,"IF ya feel himget the fuk up"


Posted by KoRnchic87:
Can Carson Daly look any older? KoRn is the greatest band ever. I love David Silveria!


Posted by MikeShinoda'swife:
I used to be in love with Carson Daly, but his "Last Call" totally sucks! He looks older everyday. KoRn's new song is awesome, Limp Bizkit is officially sold out, and TRL plays the same f*cking videos over and over!


Posted by FUNKTOE:
I think all of you are front runner's


Posted by dan arft:
it is so ****in cool cause its my way my way or the high wayyyyyy


Posted by stupid:
I think they are.


Posted by antihero:
totally agree


Posted by kwantum:
What the hell is up with all the Bizkit fans? I guess I'm only posting this comment to bring attention back to the fact that this list is about selling out, which is what LB did, cashing in on the innovation of groups like Rage and 311.


Posted by LiMpBiZkIt FrEAk:
limp bizkit rules there the best band there ever was!!Carson daly is aFu*kin idiot


Posted by maria mcneil:
hi i love limp bizket's songs but most of all i love him


Posted by Erin:
Hehe, LOVE it, Carson Daly SUCKS!!


Posted by stι:
i love lim bizket.he's is very cool.lim bizket I LOVE YOU


Posted by limpbizk8chic:
i think limp bizket and sum 41 are the best rock bands out right now and you should have more about them on your sight and every where else k?k !


Posted by Denne:
limb biscit sacs


Posted by Denne:
i think it he f.....g wicked i wish i waz like him


Posted by Emu:
this website rules, but it needs to have music videos


Posted by Real Jay:
All fiction comes from fact, this impersonator obviosly has fantasies about group orgys with limp biz. And if you have something to say about me use your own name you gutless coward and no I'm not racist and I love rap.


Posted by Skatergirl :
I love the band limpbizket I love Wes Borland To i think if Korn and Limpbizket got together they would make break through.


Posted by Skatergirl:
I think limbizket ROCKS he is the best i wish you had more or some pictures of limpbizket and his band i LOVE Wes Borland


Posted by rick:
aerosmith is the biggest sell out- appearing on trl and the super bowl half time show with nsync and britney


Posted by poo-daddy:
ugh...who cares? music is dead, its all one big commercial. there is no talent anymore, just wiggers armed with turntables and metallica samples. now if only DEVO stopped doing Rugrats soundtracks and get back into making albums...


Posted by lady pic:
All my bands are really good then they sell out on me :(


Posted by MR PMS:
This whole discussion is lame...if you don't like it then don't listen to it


AjJax
i really love undertaker and want to listen to his song


CatNamedMo
I don't think you can say some of these guys are sellouts. They never cared about the music. they just want to in front of people and be entertaining. The bigger the crowd the bigger they feel. It may seem fake but there doing what they love. How's that selling out. But i do agree with you that limp bizkit sucks dick KId Rock, nevermind he always sucked.


CatNamedMo
I don't think you can say some of these guys are sellouts. They never cared about the music. they just want to in front of people and be entertaining. The bigger the crowd the bigger they feel. It may seem fake but there doing what they love. How's that selling out. But i do agree with you that limp bizkit sucks dick KId Rock, nevermind he always sucked.


stormcloudcan@yahoo.ca
wwwaaaassssaaaapppp hi limbizket rocks he's the best he kicks ass man i dodnt have a pictur of you man can you pleas send me one man you kick ass man thanks.


Ruth S.
I think that,that is very cool.


ANTIPOP
Ok well you know what you guys? I am sick of those f*ckers especially the ones down there on the fan speak. Ok, so some are right, some didn't sell out but simply matured. But thats not the case of some. Blink 182 maturing? No, I think not. I think they just de matured. Fart jokes that can entertain a 5 year old is what they've become. Now for the matter of MTV, remember the old times? Early 90's? Grunge was king, Nirvana sat at the throne, Pearl Jam was knight, and TOOL reigned with creativity. Now what? WE HAVE POP GROUPS ON MTV THAT DONT WRITE THEIR OWN LYRICS OR PLAY THEIR OWN INSTURMENTS! YOU CALL THAT EXPRESSION? I WOULD LIKE TO SEE SOMEONE TELL ME IF THEY ARE REALLY EXPRESSING THEMSELVES THROUGH ANOTHER'S WORDS. Now, Carson Daly is a simple advocate of the mainstream culture but its not his fault. however I do hate everything he stands for and the de moralizing of music. you think anyone listens to Slipknot cause they're cute? well no, they listen because its good. A lot of people listen to Backstreet Boys because they're cute. now WHAT DOES THAT HAVE TO DO WITH MUSIC??? Music means not caring waht you look like and looking like a f*ckin freak to prove it. Manson for example. To prove IMAGE is nothing and music and creativity within yourself is everything. I AM THE ANTIPOP, THE MAN YOU CANNOT STOP!


G
what's a sellout? I mean, the whole perpous people go into music is to make money is it not? come on now, Carson Daly isn't the one buying all these albums. Just because you want to make money does not make you a sell out.


they call me BrucE
Who the hell is Carson Daly? sona of bitch bite!


afijamesy2k
Eminem will die along with limp bizkit and kid rock, f--- mtv!


The one
The one kid rock and limp biscit can suck my fat white ass


Under Siege
Jesus Christ whatever Mtv did to suck they did it well. All i ever see when i see that damn channel is Boy band shͺt or something about a makeover. And tons of rap sh²t ( in my opinion) i hate rap cause all i think it is RAP = Retards Attempthing Poetry because anyone can get a beat going and talk fast. I wish 80's rock and great guitar solo's would make a break again. MTV keep your boyband exstravaganza, besides Carson Daly seems to like the boys anyway. Vh1 kicks ass!


quiksilver
blink-182 has sold out worse than limp bizkit. i can't really respect a band that does TRL, the ultimate sellout show. but i can't blame them for wnting to move on and make some money for once. their music still kicks ass, and after all thats what it is all about. a true fan and anyone who knows what the hell is up agrees.


whateva
TRL is the best show on TV today!


whateva
Grunge SUCKED ASS!


JOMAMA
THERE IS NO GOOD MUSIC TODAY. MTV HAS GONE DOWN THE DRAIN IN 2000. MTV KICKED ASS BACK IN THE GRUNGE-ERA IN THE EARLY 90s WITH NIRVANA, AND PEARL JAM. ALL OF TODAYS ARTISTS SUCK AND THEY WILL DIE SOON



bitch
I think a band has sold out the second they start to care what anyone thinks. you make music for yourself and the art, to express your emotions and inspirations. to listen to other peoples oppinions and play for money, not for love of the music is bullsh%t!!!

abdelouahed
pouviez vous me donner une photo de vous? 

Afi K. James
I Hate eminem, carson daly, teeniebobbers and rock bands and all that s---, f--- this website.

Billy H.
If you actually give a f#ck if i band has 'sold out', then you're listening to music for an image too, it's just a different one. Whether its a better image is a matter of opinion. And don't kid yourself, the only difference between Celine Dion and your fav band is your opinion.

Shann
This is solo pop babe singer rather than rock group, but Mandy Moore does thank Carson Daly on her album, and it is a goal of hers to get to no1 on TRL. 

Slain666
Answers: 1. Don't watch MTV at all. 2. Think Fred Durst is a poor rapper. 3. Don't like Guy/Girl bands. 4. Korns first two albums were good. 5. Never heard the song but the guy off Dave Letterman sings it all the time. 6. Do I have to know B-sides? I like a band I buy the album, who the f.uck cares about b-sides? 7. The Eagles right?? 8. Nope. 9. Nope 10. Nope.

Luke
Luke's I.Q Test You score below 2 brain cells if you answer yes to any of the following 1.You watch MTV more than 30 minutes a day 2.You think Fred Durst is cool because he puts on that obviousely fake persona and can't write music 3. You like a boy or girl band that does not know how to play an instrument but rather dedicates their time to impressing little girls -sickos 4. You like Korn and find sympathy with a dude that claims to be depressed and on prozac so he can force you to support his prozac addiction by making you buy his record. 5. You walk down the street humming "Who let the dogs out" 6. You don't even know one b-side to the artist you like 7. Someone asks you if you like the song "Hotel California" and you ask, "Who does that song?" 8. You would love to get tickets to TRL so you can see your idol Carson Daly who doesn't give a rats ass about what you think of him 9. You care about which N'sync member is going with Britney Spears 10. Hey man lets go to a Korn Concert

Luke
Lets not talk about Fred Durst and Carson Daly and them being so cool cool here. This site is about music not people grow up image is not music GROW UP green day lives on korn sucks ass along with Limp Biscut....Oh who even cares about them p.s i hate the music industry ZEP RULES:)

jeni
I totally agree... carson daly sucks ass

Lil' Jon
Limp Bizkit are sellouts actually Limp Bizkit isnt Limp Bizkit anymore its Fred Durst he is on a HUGE ego-trip no wonder Christina Aguilara hates his sellout ass...........

blacklizard
I LUV YOU CARSON DAILY AND FRED DURST LUV BLACKLIZARD

blacklizard
u suck antimusic LIMBIZKET RULES !!!

blacklizard
i think that you are the most annoying crappest thing in the world and i just came in this site to say that any way i luv fred durst and carson daily so get lost lard ass!!!!

Jeff
I don't see why you hate Carson Daly so much, but I sort of agree that people throw around the word "sellout" too much, I still don't think that a band should be looked down on just because they like making money doing something they love.

KoRner
Check it- KoRn is the coolest, THEY WILL NEVER DIE! Bizkit's old stuff was good, Sig.Other was a bit down the drain compared to 3 D.B.Y., but it was O.K., but Choc.Starf.+H.D.Flav.h2o just yanks. They're turning into rap, not good rap that I love, but really bad rap. But KoRn has been, is and always will be the best. Don't mess w/KoRn, or you'll get burned.

ORGY SUCKS SH*T
I want u to go to my site, TRLsucks.com Where I back those fu*king fag*ots to the ground. ORGY Is nothing but a much of pussy as* pandering to 12 year old girls fag*ots!

Ashes
okay okay so Carson Daly is associated with everything that is phony about the music business. And yes i agree he is a prick, but just cuz some asswipe band knows carson doesn't exactly make them sell outs. The one thing i hate is when an underground band suddenly makes it big with a song and everybody calls them sellouts. Why? Can you honestly blame a band for making music that the a whole sh*t load of people like? I think what makes a band a total sell out is when they go out of their way to be in your face 24 hrs a day seven days a week, just cuz they want to sell MILLIONS of records and get that HUGE pay check. When it becomes all about the $ that's what makes a band has sold out. As for limp bizkit, they're are everywhere and i'm sick of them. But just cuz i don't like them doesn't mean you can't . Whatever....that's just my oppinion. 

slim shady
fred durst sux..he's just a perverted old guy now...write hate letters to him at Limpdurst@usa.net

Mind_Blowa
Y'all can shut the f*ck up saying durst is crap and all, coz u must know a fair bit about him 2 go b talking sh!t like u r the best mutha f*cka out there, so get ya head out ya ass and just chill with it! 

amanda~
i don't give a f*ck what anyone says...i f*cking hate it when people listen to a band for so long and then say they "sold out" because they just matured as a band. that sh!t pisses me off. why can't people just admit it when they hear good music?! so what if blink is now played on the radio? i think their music still f*ckin rawks. limp bizkit can go to hell. i never liked that trash. i hope all those bands out there that "sold out" keep rockin it.

A die hard Blink Fan
Yes Blink did sellout on Enima, but there new song goes back to their roots!!

Evil_Dez
Enough with the Limp Bizkit fighting already! We all know LB sucks, i dont care if you say some retarded comment back to me either, cause it aint gonna do anything to me, your the retard listening to Limp Bizkit.But still i'm sick of the Limp Bizkit bs.If you really hated LB and thought they sold out you wouldnt say anything about them.You'd just ignore the band! There nobodys after this 3rd cd i know it.

BUTCH
If they name their band they are sellouts! Everybodies a damn sellout, so what. 

big k rugs va
i think fred durst is asucker .he thinks christina augirela will like or go out with him if he sucks up to her.what a sucker!

PoX Eclipse
fred durst sucks

Rawker Gerl
I think all you people who sit there and bitch and complain about "sell outs" all f*cking day long are pathetic as hell. Why exactly do you care if a band has been so called "sold out" or not?? I sure could care less. You people sit there saying Limp Bizkit, Korn, Blink-182 bla bla bla are sellouts...stereotypes f*cking suck, and you guys just give a bad name to music fans. I'm sick and tired of hearing people complain that this band's a sellout, and that one is a wannabe punk rock band and so forth....it's pathetic.....thatz all i have to say ;) 

Jay
Who ever pretended to be me reinstated the fact that LB would bash him/her and so would I because he is a pethetic loser who needs a life. and rap aint sh!t

Evil Dez
If we could we would sell out? None of us have talent? I don't think so my friend. The only people who sell out are those who change their style to sell records.I know that this is how most musicians make money but if your with a certain style stick with it! Like is Slipknot turned into a country band that would be selling out.No bands need to change their style because they will always have fans in the category of music they play.If you change your style to get on the billboards that just stupid.Billboards are what other people think. you dont need to hear what others think.As long as you are making music and have fans your alright.

if you could
you would sell out but none of you can, because none of you obviously have talent.. what ever happened to listening to music instead of analyzing the performers/artists and dicussing what is right/wrong with what they are doing? 

insanegurl_00
dude Insane clown posse rocks and so does all other bands you can like anything to fit in! 

Evil Dez
I think the music industry is seriously f-cked up.Everybody runs around saying this band is a sellout and poser, and its mostly not true.I do have to admit Limp Bizkit sold out. That thing on stage at the VMA's with Aquilera was totally wrong, and Fred's sh-t on dissin all these cool bands is just f-ckin gay. I think a sell-out band is anybody who does stuff for people who live MTV 24-7. Most music these days isnt even music.You are officially a music group when you MAKE YOUR OWN MUSIC.Limp Bizkit may suck and fred may have sold out but their atleast a real band and make their own music.People like EMINEM, BackStreet Boys, N*Sync, Britney Spears, and others arnt really music they just add their f-cked up voices to already recorded stuff and they make millions for it! Most garage bands who cant play sh-t and have crappy lead singers are more of a music group than this Pop and Rap bullsh-t.I do like some big bands though.The one's who pull off being number one by themselves and without MTV or the Radio.Nine Inch Nails is an example.How many times do you hear them on the radio? Sure some of their new videos were on MTV but where else are they supposed to put the music videos? VH1? Nobody watches that except old people.Some other examples of bands that do it on their own are Slipknot, Mudvayne, Taproot, Powerman5000, Sevendust, Coal Chamber.Need i go on? I know im gonna get sh-tloads of hate for this put hey there my f-ckin ideas not yours.So f-ck you im out.

Snatch
Limp Bizkit didnt sellout you fooking morons. Every band is out there to make money, anyone that says they are in it for the music, are fookin liers. The Limp Bizkit groove is still there, listen to the new songs, it sounds like the days of old of 3 dolla bill ya. Significant Other was sorta minstream, but if you sit back and listen, its still a awesome cd. To all you Bizkit haters, suck a d*ck. To all you Durst haters, suck my d*ck! 

Jay
Vanilla Ice Rocks.....

Jay
I am Jokin.. I fu*ked Fred Durst up his a$$ in his Dressing Room. I sucked his white penis until it cummed everywhere, in my mouth.... Wes also sucked my butt

Jay
I am a racist. Rap Fu*kin Sucks...Those Dam Nigger's need to take their black a$$es and go fu*k themselves....Fu*k you Nigger a$$hole 

The Meanest Mutha F.u.c.k.a Alive
Slipknot is a Kick Ass Band...People say their music is going to be lame. I am confused...If their music starts to suck (which it wont) but is it sucks later, they will be called sell-outs. And also, if they remove the masks and coveralls, they will be called sell-outs. So they have really made their bed... I dont know what is gonna happen next, but I am with Slipknot All The Way 

Gretchen IsDead
I have never been a fan of the "Limp Bizkit/Korn" genre of music...but I definately think performing with Christina Aguilara at the VMA's was a bad turn on Fred Durst's part. I think his move definately constitutes selling out. 

a
Their song is heard on a car commercial 

moose
Couldn't have said it better, Jay 

Jay
All you who are saying "0oh look at me Fred Durst and Limp Bizkit suk, I'm going to dis bands that if I ever met they would beat tha sh!t out of me" It is so obvious all of you guys are lame that are saying this. Goo Goo Dolls sold out coz they stoped producing. Nirvana sold out coz Kurt DIED duh. Korn sold out coz every song sounds the same after a while but I'm not saying they aint sick I'm just saying I'm sick of their music. BUT EVERYONE WHO SAYS VANILLA ICE SOLD OUT IS CORRECT!

S2Go
Sellout = Limp Bizkit

HarleyQ666
I don't think Metallica has sold out. The whole Napster thing is a bitch and a half, and while I love then I don't particularly agree with them, but they're only trying to protect what they've worked so hard for. Anyone remember when they sued Time Warner to get control of their master recordings and their name? They did that so they wouldn't have record execs or hot shots to listen to. They cut their hair because they were tired of that heavy metal cliche. From what I've seen they don't wear brand names, they haven't changed their sound drastically to please anyone, and they haven't brought in the dancing girls. Lars Ulrich went on TRL to promote "I Disappear" and face it, most popular bands have to promote their music one way or another, and look, Metallica's been nominated for five awards at the VMA, they've got to be doing something right. The only thing that puzzles me is their strange friendship with Kid Rock. It's bad enough that I have to see the Undertaker walk down the ramp to his music but I can't stomach the fact that they willingly let Kid use such a great beat so he can write a song about how great he is. Sorry, I'm still having nightmares about James Hetfield singing "Sad but True" and then just as he's going to sing the chorus he yells "I AM AMERICAN BADASS!!" If that ever happens, then yes, they've sold out or gone to hell or something... 

PrincessBITCH
OK I don't know if any of you people realize this, but all these bands that you say sold out DONT CARE. Because some little 14 year old said that a band sold out they should stop promoting themselves and not be able to make it big which has probably been what they've been waiting for theyre entire lives??? That makes no sense. And I bet 99.9999% of you if you were offered that much money would do the same thing. Money changes everything so if that makes bands like Limp and Blink sellouts fine but they make good music and boatloads of money while doing it, and all I have to say is good for them.

MothaF*ckinFalcoGirl
Bands (I used to like) and have always disliked, who I think have now sold out: *foo fighters *no doubt *matchbox 20 *creed *korn *limp bizkit *everclear 

CHIMAIRA is better than you
wassup my peoples? i am a sewer yeti new to the good ol U.S. Of A, so please be nice and do not make fun of my foul stench if you see me aight. as my homies in da hood say, peace out.

CHIMAIRA is better than you
korn sucks limp sucks blink sucks metallica sucks check out real bands chimaira vod spineshank slaves on dope

MerrDawg
#5 If their color schemes have changed from brown and black to ice blue and white. 

Windegowolf
yes, i am Windegowolf, the dark mistress herself. i have no comment about the current topic, i was just bored.

Missy
Yes. Do you need an example of a sell out.. EVERCLEAR

orangetripGIRL
Yep. When MTV get's their sticky little hands on decent bands. Nothing worse. UNDERGROUND punk all the way!

e5t
when they aree even mentioned on mtv

Occupant
I'm the biggest sellout i know.

RidahNY
Yo Pantera sold out on the "Great Southern Trendkill" - PuNKz

RapidPhyre
BSB and Nsync are good at what they do... but what they do is not good at all. I think sellout is used too often and not even worth using on bands. KoRn wore adidas before they got famous enough for you to see them.(or at least before they were on TRL) Rage Against the Machine is on Sony but they are about a message besides just music and what gets a message across better than a big label to get that message out? Music isn't about hair... Metallica didn't sell out when they cut their hair or when Load or Re-Load came out. All bands mature they just changed... into old men who want more money. (I noticed Kirk growing his hair back.) It's some people's dream to write and make music because it gives them an out and a way to express feelings. If you call making music work and expect to get paid then f*ck you. Limp Bizkit... ok maybe they sold out but they are a fan oriented band. (Wes really loves showing off his eyes though.)MTV is a big business corporation and just like any business you're out to make money. It just happens that Teeny Bopper "music" (for lack of a better word)is what makes money. Carson Daly gets paid to do what he does, he works at MTV and his only problems are sitting in a make-up chair for hours and jet lag from flying to cancun and san diego. Sell out? No one liked him before he was famous anyway. Kid Rock isn't rap, Limp Bizkit is not rap, KoRn is definitely not rap... if you notice they use actual instruments and the beats and sounds change at the chorus. Rappers don't scream as much either. However if you wanna talk about sell out then you can talk about rap... they are cool because they have money and women... and they are each the best rappers. "All you know about me is what I've sold you, dumbf*ck. I sold out long before you ever even heard my name. I sold my soul to make a record, dipsh*t. Then you bought one." -Maynard, TOOL

Metal Wolf
Wait Vanilla Ice was like Backstreet Boys, he got famous at the start of his career.But then people got sick of hima nd dumped him and he almost died, now he has a underground band which is a mix of Korn/Limp Bizkit, it is a bit better than his old music in a way, so that could be selling out but I rather his new stuff.

god
HaHa! thats funny, but not true. True sell outs are people like Blink 182 or vinillia ice. A sell out is someone who changes there music just to make it big. They're not sell outs cause carson has there number on speed dial.


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